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"real" VFR-AIP for Germany?


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Hi forum,

I have a question/subject concerning the "VFR" and "non-VFR"-AIPs in SkyDemon.

e.g. for Czech Republic there is one AIP "Czech Republic" and one named "Czech Republic (VFR)"‌‌‌‌. This difference is also given in the german AIP. It seems, that SkyDemon comes with the IFR-AIP and I can´t find a dedicated "German VFR-AIP" But in "real life" is a VFR-AIP. The difference between VFR and IFR-AIP is the publishing date and an 14 days-offset when changes will be effective. The date of published data has an offset of 14 days between VFR and IFR.

For SD I have purchased the German AIP-Plates‌‌ and I´v found some aerodrome-information concerning smaller airfields which is only found in the German VFR-AIP. So far so good, but the rest of the german AIP (General, Enroute...) seems to be the IFR-Part.

My question is: doesn´t DFS offer the VFR-Part ‌‌to SD or is the German VFR-part simply not offered in SD?

Thanks for your time and answer,
Renzo‌‌‌

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Hannes
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Tim Dawson - 4/16/2018 4:36:58 PM
The product DFS makes available through companies like SkyDemon is the charts and aerodrome information only. I don't know why they don't include the GEN parts etc. This week is a great time for people to ask them that question, as they'll all be at Aero Friedrichshafen.


Hi Tim,
‌AERO is an very good example that the GER AIP-VFR needs additional Data in SD. All the discussion before were about the ENR, GEN or validity dates but in your words ... it would be nice but is tha realy nessesary.
What we, as the "total regulated german nation" ;-) VFR pilots, realy need, are critical VFR relevant informations on special events like Aero , which is only rudimentary available in NOTAM and not at all in the AIP(IFR).

‌We need the VFR Circulars and VFR Supplements.

‌e.g. AREO, there is an IFR SUP 2018/08 (1page) which does only include that there may be havy VFR traffic.
‌Only the VFR SUP 2018/11 (7pages) includes all the nessesary VFR relevant regulations and Information.

here are 2 links to the IFR and VFR SUP‌‌s
https://aero-ppr.bodensee-airport.eu/documentation/SUP_VFR_2018_11.pdf
‌‌https://aero-ppr.bodensee-airport.eu/documentation/SUP_IFR_2018_08.pdf

Maybe we see us at AERO
‌kind regards
‌‌Hannes‌‌‌
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