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Download AIP General, Enroute etc. for offline-use


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Martin Bech
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Ok, why is the information at all in SkyDemon if no one uses it? If it is in SkyDemon somebody is using it and therefore they and I should have the possibility to bulk-download. When I am on hollyday I read the information as training / refresh of knowledge. It is ok to have the present solution, then I can see what have been updated, but I have also a backup Ipad and on that I would like the bulk-download.

At least you have to have an updated ICAO map with you in flight and that rule is fullfilled with the electronic version in SkyDemon.
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SemperFi - 8/30/2017 7:16:30 PM
I only see one reason for complete AIPs in Skydemon - for countries forcing everybody by law to keep a full version aboard, but how few ever put ramp checks on that and are there even any left?

I've never heard of a country forcing you to have the full AIP onboard. Certainly an EASA country can't do that as the EU regulations state what documents you need -- the AIP is not among them -- and individual countries can't add to that. Also for most countries the full AIP on paper would be several large binders. What country are you thinking of?

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SkyDemon is perfectly consistent here: the download all function for AIPs is designed to download all the aerodrome-specific parts of the AIP in case you need to divert while in flight. You can always ensure you have relevant ENR documents downloaded before flight if you wish, but that's not how the download all feature is designed to work.
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I think I'm grown up enough to decide when it's appropriate to look up a document in flight. It's a task you can give a passenger.

Anyway, I just want the application to work consistently.
Edited 8/27/2017 7:07:00 PM by grahamb
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Are you guys seriously starting to browse through the dense AIP sections while flying an airplane? I can do that while on AP and flying IFR but I would never divert my attention to this while VFR. When I need to know something during flight I ask ATC. That's what they are here for.

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Gets my vote! +1
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Tim Dawson - 6/19/2017 1:08:35 PM
No, this request has nothing to do with that other thread.

Again, nobody has told us exactly why it should ever be necessary to have the non-aerodrome parts of an AIP available in flight. It's a simple question but I suspect there really isn't a good answer; no national authority would require it. ‌‌

The enroute section which contains details of the Prohibited/Danger and Restricted areas can be useful if tactical rerouting is required, as it may contain more detail than displayed on the chart. I have experienced inconsistency in whether the headers for the non-plates sections of the AIP are even displayed at all when in flight. Coming back up through France last weekend I wasn't able to access an ENR section I had previously downloaded; knocking the app out of flight mode for a few seconds didn't make any difference either; i wonder it was something to do with being connected to a PilotAware with no internet connection was fooling it somehow.

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No, this request has nothing to do with that other thread.

Again, nobody has told us exactly why it should ever be necessary to have the non-aerodrome parts of an AIP available in flight. It's a simple question but I suspect there really isn't a good answer; no national authority would require it. ‌‌
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I see a direct link with http://forums.skydemon.aero/Topic22815.aspx

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Hi Tim,
Yes please include that option. I'm really missing it. It would be so good to have all AIPs current and offline available. Imagine being able to find the correct info on a RA or the correct altimeter setting procedure when enroute with a student. So please yes! I never understood why you made the plates bulk downloadable but not the text.
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Ben
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