Renzo
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Hi from Bavaria!
Since yesterday I use SkyDemon. I purchased the program because of quite "strong" recommendations of mates in our club. I additionally purchased the AIP Germany and "Rogers Austria". I installed everything smoothly on my PC and iPad, things work fine so far and I tried some flying today with SkyDemon.
Now the following question occured: Am I able to download the AIP-Parts "General" "Enroute" and so on completely in one(!) task for further offline use? I found out to download all the plates showing e.g. approach-charts, aerodrome-charts for a specific country. That worked fine, I´ve all the plates on my Pad. I also can click one of those thousands of pages e.g in the "General" Part, download, and read it. But I did not find the magic button to receive all the other text-parts of the aip mentioned above.
Anybody here who understands first: my english - and second: my problem? :-)
Thanks in advance, Renzo
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drnicolas
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+xHi from Bavaria! Since yesterday I use SkyDemon. I purchased the program because of quite "strong" recommendations of mates in our club. I additionally purchased the AIP Germany and "Rogers Austria". I installed everything smoothly on my PC and iPad, things work fine so far and I tried some flying today with SkyDemon. Now the following question occured: Am I able to download the AIP-Parts "General" "Enroute" and so on completely in one(!) task for further offline use? I found out to download all the plates showing e.g. approach-charts, aerodrome-charts for a specific country. That worked fine, I´ve all the plates on my Pad. I also can click one of those thousands of pages e.g in the "General" Part, download, and read it. But I did not find the magic button to receive all the other text-parts of the aip mentioned above. Anybody here who understands first: my english - and second: my problem? :-) Thanks in advance, Renzo It should be possible: - Go to the Airfiels-tab - Choose "All Documents" - Choose "Tools" (riight edge) - Choose "Download product" or - Choose "Download AiP" - Choose "Download all" or select country. Afterwards you can check: - non-downloaded items are marked white - downloaded items are marked green - updates in a Kind of yellow. A few weeks before I had the Problem that a taxi-Chart was not downloaded and no Internet Connection was available. The Chart was listed but did not open and also I was not given a message that this particular Chart has to be downloaded. Back at home anything was fine (WiFi available). This Feature should be added.
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Tim Dawson
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It is not possible to bulk-download the general (non-aerodrome) parts of a country's AIP at present.
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Renzo
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Hi Tim, thanks for the quick reply! Two questions: - why? - maybe in the future? Kind regards, Renzo +xIt is not possible to bulk-download the general (non-aerodrome) parts of a country's AIP at present.
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Tim Dawson
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I don't think we have a record of why; presumably because they are the least likely documents to be needed in flight. The answer to "in the future?" is the same as every suggestion on here: if lots of people want it, it will be done.
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bsindram
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Hi Tim, Yes please include that option. I'm really missing it. It would be so good to have all AIPs current and offline available. Imagine being able to find the correct info on a RA or the correct altimeter setting procedure when enroute with a student. So please yes! I never understood why you made the plates bulk downloadable but not the text. Thanks, Ben
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MikeTwoOne
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Tim Dawson
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No, this request has nothing to do with that other thread.
Again, nobody has told us exactly why it should ever be necessary to have the non-aerodrome parts of an AIP available in flight. It's a simple question but I suspect there really isn't a good answer; no national authority would require it.
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grahamb
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+xNo, this request has nothing to do with that other thread. Again, nobody has told us exactly why it should ever be necessary to have the non-aerodrome parts of an AIP available in flight. It's a simple question but I suspect there really isn't a good answer; no national authority would require it. The enroute section which contains details of the Prohibited/Danger and Restricted areas can be useful if tactical rerouting is required, as it may contain more detail than displayed on the chart. I have experienced inconsistency in whether the headers for the non-plates sections of the AIP are even displayed at all when in flight. Coming back up through France last weekend I wasn't able to access an ENR section I had previously downloaded; knocking the app out of flight mode for a few seconds didn't make any difference either; i wonder it was something to do with being connected to a PilotAware with no internet connection was fooling it somehow.
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efrenken
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ckurz7000
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Are you guys seriously starting to browse through the dense AIP sections while flying an airplane? I can do that while on AP and flying IFR but I would never divert my attention to this while VFR. When I need to know something during flight I ask ATC. That's what they are here for.
-- Chris.
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grahamb
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I think I'm grown up enough to decide when it's appropriate to look up a document in flight. It's a task you can give a passenger.
Anyway, I just want the application to work consistently.
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Tim Dawson
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SkyDemon is perfectly consistent here: the download all function for AIPs is designed to download all the aerodrome-specific parts of the AIP in case you need to divert while in flight. You can always ensure you have relevant ENR documents downloaded before flight if you wish, but that's not how the download all feature is designed to work.
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