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Tim Dawson
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You would have been asked, when first trying to use Bluetooth with SkyDemon, whether to give SkyDemon permission to use Bluetooth. It appears you said no (or somebody did) so now SkyDemon does not have permission. You can fix this in the Settings app, probably under Privacy or Bluetooth, where you control which apps are allowed to use Bluetooth.
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Gaznel
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Hi. I cannot get my iPad (mini 5 running version 17.5.1 and SD version 4.0.0.397) to connect to the IRXON Version 3 Bluetooth to beam frequencies to my transceiver (Funke ATR833). However, this works perfectly using my iPhone (also running Sky Demon 4.0.0.397)
On my iPad I go into CONNECTIVITY - ADD BLUETOOTH DEVICE - then all I get is "SkyDemon for iPad Not Authorized" as per below - any thoughts on what I am doing wrong. As I stated above it works perfectly with my iPhone?
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Tim Dawson
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Yes, we are willing to add support for Becker radios if someone can help us with the protocol and testing of the feature. Just get in touch with me via customer support (Michael) and we can talk about it.
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Michael Hoffmann
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+x+x+x+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a As I mentioned before, Becker has its own protocol, nothing like NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sets. You need to translate the output/input into Becker language. A separate controller with translation software is required. Even if you can communicate with the AR6201 via a converter (RS-232 <-> RS-422), the device does not understand the commands. I'm working on it.
Please confirm that you are interested in a solution. The more interested parties, the better.
What shape or form would a Becker “Translator” take? Lines of code from Skydemon or a third-party device inserted in the chain between bluetooth dongle,converter and radio? Just curious.The question might sound stupid but I am more at home with engines and wiring Well, it depends ;-)) If Skydemon could add this type of device in his software it would be the smartest solution. Tim, are you listening?
If not, there is a piece of hardware needed. At one end the BT-Dongle, in between a small microcontroller with the translator and at the other end a RS-422 interface. This unit could be shrinked down to the size of a matchbox.
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Michael Hoffmann
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+x+x+x+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a As I mentioned before, Becker has its own protocol, nothing like NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sets. You need to translate the output/input into Becker language. A separate controller with translation software is required. Even if you can communicate with the AR6201 via a converter (RS-232 <-> RS-422), the device does not understand the commands. I'm working on it.
Please confirm that you are interested in a solution. The more interested parties, the better.
Becker does offer its own rs232 to rs 422 converter (available for 180£ from Mendelsson…) I don’t know if this includes a “translator” inside. There are a least 2 pilots in my club who would be interested in a solution but we are both useless at programing😇 I would guess it's only the hardware converter (on ebay a few bugs). The newly emerged problem with the PGRMC sentences is also new for Becker.
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Pascal
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+x+x+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a As I mentioned before, Becker has its own protocol, nothing like NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sets. You need to translate the output/input into Becker language. A separate controller with translation software is required. Even if you can communicate with the AR6201 via a converter (RS-232 <-> RS-422), the device does not understand the commands. I'm working on it.
Please confirm that you are interested in a solution. The more interested parties, the better.
What shape or form would a Becker “Translator” take? Lines of code from Skydemon or a third-party device inserted in the chain between bluetooth dongle,converter and radio? Just curious.The question might sound stupid but I am more at home with engines and wiring
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Pascal
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+x+x+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a As I mentioned before, Becker has its own protocol, nothing like NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sets. You need to translate the output/input into Becker language. A separate controller with translation software is required. Even if you can communicate with the AR6201 via a converter (RS-232 <-> RS-422), the device does not understand the commands. I'm working on it.
Please confirm that you are interested in a solution. The more interested parties, the better.
Becker does offer its own rs232 to rs 422 converter (available for 180£ from Mendelsson…) I don’t know if this includes a “translator” inside. There are a least 2 pilots in my club who would be interested in a solution but we are both useless at programing😇
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Michael Hoffmann
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+x+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a As I mentioned before, Becker has its own protocol, nothing like NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sets. You need to translate the output/input into Becker language. A separate controller with translation software is required. Even if you can communicate with the AR6201 via a converter (RS-232 <-> RS-422), the device does not understand the commands. I'm working on it.
Please confirm that you are interested in a solution. The more interested parties, the better.
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Pascal
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+x+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
Hello , i have spent some time trying the Irxon bluetooth dongle with an rs 485/422 converter wired up to my Becker Ar6201 (rx2+ to pin 2 tx 2+, tx2+ to pin 3 rx2+,rx2- to pin 9 tx2-, tx2- to pin 10 rx2-, pin 23 ground) .The dongle is recognized by skydemon, the chosen frequency is described as being sent but none of the radio settings in the Skydemon list (garmin,funke..)produces any result. The tandem box in the internal menu of the becker is checked on so it should recognize a remote. If have seen youtube videos of the radio accepting frequency changes from a
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Michael Hoffmann
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+xCan anyone confirm if the available protocols work with a Becker AR6201, and they have it working. No, it will not work by default.
First, some words about TTL and V24. The mentioned working transceivers (Garmin GTR 225, f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II, Trig TY 91/96) have a RS-232 interface with V24 voltage level. This means serial transmission with logical low at -12V and high at +12 V (nearly...). The cheap BT-Modules (which work like a charm with the iPad) have TTL voltage level. (low at 0 V , high at + 5V). To connect it to your RS-232 transceiver you need a voltage level converter.
Something like this:
Now to Becker. The AR6201 has an RS-422 interface. RS-422 is electrically different to RS-232 (4 lines, current driven). But it isn't the main problem, there are many converter from TTL to RS-422 available.
The challenge is the implementation of a translator from NMEA (ASCII) PGRMC sentences to the in-house Becker protocol. I found an Open Source solution used in the LK8000:
There should be any information needed for such a piece of software... I can't wait to try it out when I can have an AR6201 outside of the plane.
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