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There are new FIC boundary in Italy and new frequency since July, but not yet implemented on the SD map. The new near Rome is important....
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We don't usually make permanent changes to our map based on a NOTAM, which are by their nature temporary. If this becomes a permanent change it will make it into the AIP and at that point the permanent data in our chart will change. In the meantime, we are presumably showing the NOTAM in the briefing and therefore making the information available. If you have information about whether (and when) these changes are likely to become permanent, that would be useful.
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Tim Dawson - 10/18/2023 9:15:53 AM
We don't usually make permanent changes to our map based on a NOTAM, which are by their nature temporary. If this becomes a permanent change it will make it into the AIP and at that point the permanent data in our chart will change. In the meantime, we are presumably showing the NOTAM in the briefing and therefore making the information available. If you have information about whether (and when) these changes are likely to become permanent, that would be useful.

Tim, 
I can see on the Italy map,  many NOTAM  that are temporary over airports or areas like those for the Gliding Grand Prix (it was only for 10 days,  I know because I made the NOTAM ! ).
This NOTAM of the 2 frequencies is for 4 months, probably will be extended,  and is related mainly to pilots heading to LIRU. 

Another solution would be to include it,  temporarily,  on the "RADIO SERVICE of Roma Information",  both frequencies with a reference to the NOTAM or with a synthetic instruction on how to choose the correct frequency, north or south when in that area.

The ATC of the Roma FIC will appreciate this effort since pilots navigating with SkyDemon (many) do not read NOTAM......or they use only the frequency depicted on the Radio Information:  125.750.

Is up to you, regards,
Gianni 

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Tim Dawson - 10/18/2023 9:15:53 AM
We don't usually make permanent changes to our map based on a NOTAM, which are by their nature temporary. If this becomes a permanent change it will make it into the AIP and at that point the permanent data in our chart will change. In the meantime, we are presumably showing the NOTAM in the briefing and therefore making the information available. If you have information about whether (and when) these changes are likely to become permanent, that would be useful.

Tim,
the coordinates of the 4 FIS Areas of Rome and Brindisi are detailed on the REMARKS Section of ENR 2.1.1.2.2.1 page of AIP, and for each area the relative frequency to be used is also indicated.
The NOTAM is still in use, but now the coordinates and relative frequency are published on National AIP.
The depicted dotted green lines on Skydemon map should be amended accordingly, in particularly check the lines I have hilglited by a red arrows since on Skydemon map are different and not corret.
regards,
Gianni



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