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If you anticipate having no means of connecting to the internet, we offer the option to download an entire AIP.

If you want SkyDemon to always download entire AIPs to your device, whenever it can, whenever they're updated, then sorry, we will not be offering that.

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Tim Dawson - 8/10/2020 9:20:36 AM
This thread is old, and since 2017 there is now an option to keep plates associated with airfields in your route downloaded automatically.

But that doesn't help if you're planning a route without a connection to the internet.
Example: I plan a route at home, have an internet connection and all maps were downloaded automatically. Very nice.
But later on this day at a airport or somewhere without internet connenction I plan a new route and then I don't have any approach charts if they are out of date. Not nice!
If Skydemon had already downloaded ALL the outdated maps at home, there would be no problems later on.
Therefore, I am in favor of Skydemon either automatically downloading all outdated approach charts or starting the download via a central button.
As it is now, the situation is pretty unsatisfactory ...

Chris

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This thread is old, and since 2017 there is now an option to keep plates associated with airfields in your route downloaded automatically.
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neilmurg - 8/8/2020 12:22:34 AM
C'mon! The 'Waffer thin mint' is worth a reply on it;s own! atb

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Plate download
Dear Skydemon, I use an Android tablet, iPad mini form factor, no SIMM
I try to remember before I go flying to connect to my phone WiFiAP (to get METAR / plates  / updates) but if I don't SD, has only what it had 2 hours ago at home (if I did my plan at home). I also use PAw, and its WiFi has no internet connection, but is an extra pair of eyes.
I know this is user specific, I could have a SIMM equipped tablet etc etc, but it would be useful for me if, when I said 'Go Flying' SD told me how old it's data was, and gave me an opportunity to update (connect to an AP/WiFi). And then download updated METAR, plates (and other plates on a narrow route brief?).
tbh, I should have already sorted this out before I started the engine, but, you've made it so easy to go flying, so, one more wafer thin mint????
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Well worth doing if you're on a trip. Tim, could SD have a look at the storage needed available and say something like 'This will consume 20%/50%/300% of your available disk space'?
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There is no option to automatically update plates. That has been the discussion of this entire four-page thread.

‌‌Plates that are out of date are highlighted in orange. That is the warning.

You can easily ensure all plates for your route are up to date by going to Tools -> Download all in List when you're looking at an airfield in the Airfields tab. ‌‌
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Is there an option to automatically update if you're on wifi? Is there an option to have a warning that there are plates along your route that need to be updated, with a button to press to download all of them?

The latter in particular would certainly save a lot of time as it would avoid having to download entire AIPs or manually updating. e.g. I like to have all of UK installed, but really don't need *all* of Germany just because I pass through it on the way to Switzerland. The former could be something that appears at the top or bottom of the screen when planning, or potentially just a little red icon for plates and another for charts if you haven't updated those too.
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Please understand that an AOPA publication is not law. It is at best a recommendation. If, as it appears, they are recommending pilots on a course of action that isn't actually required by law, you may wish to mention it to them.

I already explained above why we will not be implementing the prototyped "update all plates I have ever downloaded" button. That is not a good enough solution, and it is a solution to a problem which needs further defining.

In the case of the German VFR AIP product, those plates are updated on a well-known schedule every 28 days. We could email customers of that product at that time, which would be one solution.

It is possible we could a‌utomatically download plates for airfields along your route, but it has the following disadvantages:

1. SkyDemon eats a lot of bandwidth without being asked to, potentially in an expensive way on 3/4G
2. You are no longer aware when certain documents have been updated‌‌‌
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......regarding the terms and conditions of the law, please read the AOPA Safety Letter 24, 2016 .......
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