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Your request has indeed been noted. Thank you.
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Tim Dawson - 9/3/2018 11:06:39 AM
Sorry, it simply isn't the same. It might seem a simple thing to make Switzerland work differently from all the other countries and include those low-level obstacles, but people would then (rightly) expect such coverage in other countries too (where information is not published) quite apart from what I have already described.

Is this request attempting to solve a problem many pilots are facing in Switzerland? I still don't think I am understanding the requirement for enroute obstacles that are less than 200ft high, as I don't understand why a significant number of pilots are flying at that height (in the enroute phase).
- 200ft are not enough with non horizontal cables
- In case of an engine failure and emergency landing it will be good to get a warning about cables
- In switzerland it is legal to land helicopters everywhere

I understand it will be a special thing (maybe) only for Switzerland... But I would like to ask for it Smile

Chris

Edited 9/3/2018 12:45:08 PM by Chris_LSZO
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Sorry, it simply isn't the same. It might seem a simple thing to make Switzerland work differently from all the other countries and include those low-level obstacles, but people would then (rightly) expect such coverage in other countries too (where information is not published) quite apart from what I have already described.

Is this request attempting to solve a problem many pilots are facing in Switzerland? I still don't think I am understanding the requirement for enroute obstacles that are less than 200ft high, as I don't understand why a significant number of pilots are flying at that height (in the enroute phase).

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And about the memory: Maybe you can handle it like the High Resolution Terrain data (load or delete from memory if needed).

Chris

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Hi Tim,

this switch already exists in the aircraft setup menu (airframe type)!

I guess, the additional memory needed for a larger obstacle database wouldn't be a serious problem on modern handheld devices....

Gerhard

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Tim Dawson - 8/28/2018 1:35:40 PM
But then we'd still be loading all those obstacles into memory (for the many obstacle related calculations we do) just electing not to display them. There isn't an option to selectively load only a subset into memory, based upon this theoretical helicopter switch. And we'd be introducing yet another option, which we dislike and confuses people.


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But then we'd still be loading all those obstacles into memory (for the many obstacle related calculations we do) just electing not to display them. There isn't an option to selectively load only a subset into memory, based upon this theoretical helicopter switch. And we'd be introducing yet another option, which we dislike and confuses people.
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Tim Dawson - 8/22/2018 4:18:36 PM
We would only do this if faced with significant demand to do so. The reason why obstacles over 300ft (typical value) are excluded from enroute charts is to reduce clutter, because there are a lot of them. Is it normal to fly a helicopter less than 500ft AGL when not taking off or landing where you operate?

I'm agree with you. The best way would be if you leave the choice to the user: Let him adjust the min. height from 0 to 300ft. Or just a "Helicopter-switch".

Chris

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We would only do this if faced with significant demand to do so. The reason why obstacles over 300ft (typical value) are excluded from enroute charts is to reduce clutter, because there are a lot of them. Is it normal to fly a helicopter less than 500ft AGL when not taking off or landing where you operate?
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Tim Dawson - 8/22/2018 11:24:07 AM
We are given a "maximum height above ground level" datapoint, where the word "maximum" implies that includes the cable, in the event it crosses a valley. It's that value which we require to be at least 200ft.


Okay Tim.
Could you reduce the limit to 100ft maybe? Or could you implement an option the user can choose this limit byself? Many helicopter pilots use this software...

Chris

Edited 8/22/2018 11:38:36 AM by Chris_LSZO
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