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Tim Dawson
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What you see is correct. The correct way of reporting an EET at an FIR boundary is the EET/LFRR0123 format. To use the name of an airways reporting point there, or a lat/lon, would be an error.

I do not know what MN1 and MN2 are, but they have no place in a flightplan. The only things that should make up a flightplan route are airways reporting points, radio navaids or lat/lons.
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Tim Dawson (26/07/2012)
SkyDemon always uses the waypoint names where the waypoint is a five-letter airways reporting point.

If you believe you are seeing behaviour contrary to this, please send us the route in question and we will inspect it.


OK, since I can't attach a file (neither Mozilla nor IE works...how are other people doing this???) I'll post the relevant sections of the route file in gpx:

<rte>
<name>Wiener Neustadt Ost - Maribor - Orehova Vas</name>
<number>1</number>


<rtept lat="47.843333" lon="16.260333">
<name>Wiener Neustadt Ost</name>
<sym>LOAN</sym>
<extensions><skd:level type="A" value="4500" /></extensions>
</rtept>

<rtept lat="46.708764" lon="15.652375">
<name>GOLVA</name>
<sym>GOLVA</sym>
<extensions><skd:level type="A" value="2000" /></extensions>
</rtept>

<rtept lat="46.678333" lon="15.660000">
<name>Mn1 - Sentilj</name>
<extensions><skd:level type="A" value="2000" /></extensions>
</rtept>

<rtept lat="46.611667" lon="15.680000">
<name>Mn2 - Pesnica</name>
<extensions><skd:level type="A" value="1500" /></extensions>
</rtept>

<rtept lat="46.479833" lon="15.686167">
<name>Maribor - Orehova Vas</name>
<sym>LJMB</sym>
<extensions />
</rtept>
</rte>

The text in the Route field of the flightplan reads: "DCT GOLVA DCT 4641N01540E DCT 4637N015e1E DCT"

In the Remark-field I read this text: "EET/LJLA0056"

Now, since GOLVA is the border crossing point, the text in the Remark-field ought to read: "EET/GOLVA0056", which is much more readable and is expected by ATC personnel. Otherwise I have to answer questions like: "Please report border crossing point."

The second issue is that the reporting points MN1 and MN2 don't show up with their names in the Route section.

Greetings, -- Chris.
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I don't seem to be able to add an attachement. Whenever I click the "Attach" button a window opens inside the browser window but the top portion of the window is off the top and cut off. No way for me to see it. I'm using Mozilla Firefox and Win 7.

Will post as soon as I've sorted this out.

-- Chris.
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SkyDemon always uses the waypoint names where the waypoint is a five-letter airways reporting point.

If you believe you are seeing behaviour contrary to this, please send us the route in question and we will inspect it.
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I am running SD 2.4 on an iPad.

When I plan a route using reporting points on the map I don't see their name in the flight plan but only their coordinates. So, e.g., the waypoint "RADLY" shows only up with coordinates. This is unusual and not very friendly for the folk at ATC. Also, it makes it difficult for me to read the flight plan.

My suggestion: use the waypoint name in the flightplan in place of the coordinates.

Thanks, -- Chris.
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