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Active (by NOTAM) "Temporary Restricted Area" not permanently shown on map


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Hi SkyDemon team,

from 17.-19.10.2024 there was a relly big dimensioned RA(T) - Temporary Restricted Area activated by NOTAM in Germany round of Berlin (see attached PDF "ED-R Humboldt vom 17.-18.10.pdf" and picture below).


This area was NOT shown permanently on the map in SkyDemon. This resulting in some airspace violations from pilots using SkyDemon as their primary navigation/NOTAM source. Other navigation software had shown this area permanently on the map (if it's needed I can tell you the other products).

As you can see in the attached video, the RA(T) was shown in the NOTAM tab in the section "Warnings". But only when tapping actively on "Show on map" the area was shown in the map, but after some seconds this area disappered again. So the user/pilot was forced to actively select the RA(T) from the NOTAM tab, otherwise the user could not see the area on the map. 



Additionally there were no warnings in the flight when the pilot was flying towards or inside this Restricted Area.

Flying through a Restricted Area without permission is a criminal offense and will be severely punished by the German law.

Could you explain why this active RA(T) was not permanently shown in the moving map and why there is no warning when flying towards or inside this area? Is it planned to change this behaviour?

Thank you in advance 



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Tim Dawson
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With no real details of the NOTAM it's hard for me to speculate on why it might not have appeared. In Germany specifically there would usually be an AIP SUP with any such restrictions, separately depicted. Possibly the authorities in Germany might have an exact copy of the NOTAM as issued, in which case, we would be able to look at that and determine why it was not visible on the map. It may have been encoded incorrectly by the originator (inappropriate Q-line) which would explain its absence.

You appear to have some contacts who have reported violations of the RA(T) during the time it was active. Do they perhaps have a record of the exact NOTAM?

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