Hi SkyDemon team,

from 17.-19.10.2024 there was a relly big dimensioned RA(T) - Temporary Restricted Area activated by NOTAM in Germany round of Berlin (see attached PDF "ED-R Humboldt vom 17.-18.10.pdf" and picture below).


This area was NOT shown permanently on the map in SkyDemon. This resulting in some airspace violations from pilots using SkyDemon as their primary navigation/NOTAM source. Other navigation software had shown this area permanently on the map (if it's needed I can tell you the other products).

As you can see in the attached video, the RA(T) was shown in the NOTAM tab in the section "Warnings". But only when tapping actively on "Show on map" the area was shown in the map, but after some seconds this area disappered again. So the user/pilot was forced to actively select the RA(T) from the NOTAM tab, otherwise the user could not see the area on the map. 



Additionally there were no warnings in the flight when the pilot was flying towards or inside this Restricted Area.

Flying through a Restricted Area without permission is a criminal offense and will be severely punished by the German law.

Could you explain why this active RA(T) was not permanently shown in the moving map and why there is no warning when flying towards or inside this area? Is it planned to change this behaviour?

Thank you in advance 

Hi Tim,

sorry for beeing late adressing this issue in this forum. But on the day where it happened I was not able to do the post and on the same day (18.10.2024) the NOTAM expired at 10 p.m. (22:00).

The question is, if it is a generally problem with RA(T)s (especially in Germany) and does this issue happens often (in other countries too) or this was a one-time-error. Do you have information about that?

I can tell you for sure (and the authorities can tell that too) that there happened a lot of violations inside this RA(T). The temporary restricted area was active for 2 days because of the visit of the last president of the USA (Joe Biden).

And you are completely right, the SkyDemon map does not release the pilot from checking the NOTAMs of the respective country (e.g. the DFS in Germany) and/or the NOTAM view of each entry in the NOTAM tab in SD (and click on it). Every pilot has a duty of care to use all possibilities of obtaining the necessary information for the flight. This also applies to flights that have the same departure and destination airport and do not cover a large distance.

Nevertheless, due to the reliability and the good experience of the software, pilots (often) rely on the visual map view. And that was the problem in that case. It is expected that restricted areas in particular (whether temporary or permanent) are permanently projected onto the map for the active period.

I can only ask that other pilots also comment on this post with a similar issue, as I do on their behalf. And hopefully just-in-time, when the issue occurs to avoid this problem in the future.