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Tim Dawson
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It sounds like potentially quite a complicated feature. Please bear in mind that only a small percentage of SkyDemon users even use the "land here" functionality, which does influence how we prioritise potential work to enhance it.
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jfw
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+xWe're certainly open to doing so, but the requirement isn't very clear at the moment. Are you talking about some kind of all-encompassing PLOG? I understand the question as follows: currently when you do do a briefing pack it only provides the information of the current leg (when you have multiple legs via "land here"). The request is to have the information of all legs in the briefing pack in order to have all information available at one place. I think it could indeed be interesting to a have all information of the different legs grouped in a way or another to check your preparation (eg. if you do not plan to refuel at intermediate stop starting fuel of leg 2 is arrival fuel of leg 1, the coherence between the expected arrival time of leg 1 vs expected departure time of leg 2, ...) I would not expect SD to make any decision but only for me to have an overview where I can check that all is according to what I have in mind. I wonder if it would be better the collate or not the info (eg. plog and WB in brifeing): would it better to have: -plog leg1, WB leg 1, plog leg 2 WB leg 2 or -plog leg1, plog leg 2, WB leg 1, WB leg 2.... or even something else - an oveview page with the main information of the different legs ? For the latter I would like expeted departure and arrival time, expected durartion , departure and arrival fuell, expected fuell usage (would choose taxi+trip+contigency for this latter)
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Tim Dawson
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We're certainly open to doing so, but the requirement isn't very clear at the moment. Are you talking about some kind of all-encompassing PLOG?
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gilbert
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I think the request for this functionalty is simple. In the case of e.g. one day trip with multiple landings, we should all be able to figure out ourselves planned fuel, t/o and landing times for each leg. All I would ask Sydemon to do is being able to summarize all legs (once planned and verified) in one file, for example for printing the complete trip on a map or for sharing the trip by e-mail. It is annoying having to share each leg in a separate file to send e g. as attachment. To be clear : Each leg is planned and stays seperately, nobody asks Skydemon to link the leg parameters and re-calculate all legs if one leg is changed. However, Skydemon should add a feature to re-group all indivudual legs in one file for viewing only.
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Tim Dawson
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SkyDemon does not assign takeoff dates/times for the new sectors created when you use "Land Here".
If you think you're seeing it do so, perhaps you could document a precise example for us here? We can then investigate it for you and find out what's going wrong. Thanks!
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Frank_B
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Hi Tim, first i made one "triangle" route (with 2 airports as "marker"). This route has one date. Later i maked the 2 airports with "land here". Now i had a route with three legs and three dates.....
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Tim Dawson
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Since you've set a date and time for all your legs, how could SkyDemon possibly automatically change the dates and times of your other two legs when you change one? We cannot know what your intentions are.
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Frank_B
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Hi,
i relly meant ONE route with two further "landing points"!
Disadvantage of the actual solution:
Today i plan the dicussed route for a special day, with two successively following legs.
When i now change the planned flight date for one of the three legs, the planned flight date of the other ones don´t get changed! They keep the old date! So i have to change the date for all three legs seperately!
I hope my bad english is understandable ;-)
Regards,
Frank
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pilot-byom
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There is a reason flights with ‚land here‘ are split into legs - that is simply the way flights are recorded since the early days of global agreement on using the air for travel. The only reason to have ‚an overview‘ outside the individual flights preparation is beyond the aim of flying and solely related to ground interests (i.e. get back home in the evening). I doubt we all want this in a moving map navigation solution.
If you really need an overview of a total route of several legs, do one separate without ‚land here‘. There is no way you can prepare several legs into one flight preparation, quite easy - there is no reliable turn around time for ground ops on GA flights (sorry, no scheduled peeing in GA).
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grahamb
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I’m not actually sure what the OP is asking for in an ‘overview’. The overview is there on the screen, with the ‘active’ segment highlighted and fuel and W&B for just that segment.
Do you mean one a Plog for the whole route of three segments, with fuel and W&B calculations for the whole thing? It starts to get very complicated if options like that start to be considered.
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