France Intsruments Plates missing ?

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France Intsruments Plates missing ?

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jfw	jfw posted 9/3/2019 8:12:42 AM HOT Topic Details Share Topic
Group: Forum Members Posts: 134, Visits: 485	Hello, I can see the instruments plates for the different countries I have active (BE, NL, D, UK, LUX) but not in France. Am I missing something or are these not (yet ?) available ? If the latter, any view when these will be available ? Thanks in advance. J
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grahamb	grahamb posted 9/3/2019 9:35:49 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 565, Visits: 27K	The problem is that the SIA decided to incorporate the instrument plates along with the textual information into one big PDF called ‘Textual Information’. You’ll find all the plates in one big lump there. It’s a right PITA, and I know that TIm D has already taken this up with them to no effect. The irony is that on the SIA site itself IAPs are all published as individual PDFs, so they can do it when they want to. Edited 9/3/2019 9:38:12 AM by grahamb
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 9/5/2019 4:27:51 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	This is a battle we are still fighting with the French authorities.
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jfw	jfw posted 9/25/2019 2:09:03 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 134, Visits: 485	+x Tim Dawson - 9/5/2019 4:27:51 PM This is a battle we are still fighting with the French authorities. Thanks for the feedback... anything we can do to help ?
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 9/30/2019 10:20:57 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	I suppose it wouldn't hurt to write to them yourself expressing the same desire.
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kakugo	kakugo posted 2/7/2020 1:44:14 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 21, Visits: 72	Stupid question: if the PDFs are readily available from the SIA web site, why can't Skydemon get them from there?
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pilot-byom	p pilot-byom posted 2/8/2020 7:35:20 AM Post Details Share Post
p Group: Forum Members Posts: 323, Visits: 388	@kakugo: Would you pay extra for this massive manual effort to every 28 days rip the big PDF apart and process manually? I guess this is major work, if not delivered process compatible. Edited 2/8/2020 7:38:08 AM by MarkusM
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grahamb	grahamb posted 2/8/2020 12:14:30 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 565, Visits: 27K	+x kakugo - 2/7/2020 1:44:14 PM Stupid question: if the PDFs are readily available from the SIA web site, why can't Skydemon get them from there? Tim gets his AIP data as distributed via the single 'approved' channel. The answer is for France to fix their feed of data into that. I can fully understand Tim not wanting to develop one-off non-standard methods that will be fraught with complexity and unanticipated challenges.
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kakugo	kakugo posted 2/8/2020 3:06:13 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 21, Visits: 72	+x grahamb - 2/8/2020 12:14:30 PM +x kakugo - 2/7/2020 1:44:14 PM Stupid question: if the PDFs are readily available from the SIA web site, why can't Skydemon get them from there? Tim gets his AIP data as distributed via the single 'approved' channel. The answer is for France to fix their feed of data into that. I can fully understand Tim not wanting to develop one-off non-standard methods that will be fraught with complexity and unanticipated challenges. Yes, I agree. It would be possible to write a script that downloads the PDFs for each plate from the SIA web site, but it would be ugly, fragile and of course they wouldn't be georeferenced. So it was a stupid question indeed.
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Flying Dutchman	F Flying Dutchman posted 6/7/2020 12:00:48 PM Post Details Share Post
F Group: Forum Members Posts: 7, Visits: 0	+x Tim Dawson - 9/30/2019 10:20:57 AM I suppose it wouldn't hurt to write to them yourself expressing the same desire. Hi Tim, I understand the French have amalgamated their instrument plates into the "textual information" document in the Eurocontrol EAD system. In 2016 I saw a post of you, believing 'the French stated that they plan to reverse this change sometime in the coming months.' Have you got any update on this? Today, I noticed that the Garmin Pilot App is able to get to the single plates (also with geo referencing), so somehow they achieved to sort of index the French charts. Below an example of LFLL. Would be great if this functionality can be restored, although I understand it's probably beyond your control.
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