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The SkyEcho 2 doesn't currently implement bearingless targets as we all know them from FLARM and PilotAware.
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George Reid - 2/16/2019 9:13:23 PM
Bearing less targets are contacts from mode C/S transponders. Their altitude is known but their position (ie direction and range) is unknown since mode C/S does not provide position information.


Of course I knew this George but could not understand why SD was not interested in a similar offering from SE2 - see above.
 I have given up bothering about it now and will join you with Pilot Aware.

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Bearing less targets are contacts from mode C/S transponders. Their altitude is known but their position (ie direction and range) is unknown since mode C/S does not provide position information.

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Bearingless Targets is an option in SD (see Nav options) - what are these and why is there an objection to showing
SE2 Bearingless Mode c/s Targets?

Edited 2/16/2019 7:57:05 PM by Bealeyman
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Me? What are you after?
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MarkusM - 2/14/2019 7:46:31 AM
Bealeyman - 2/13/2019 8:19:39 PM
Tim, thanks for your response.
 
I have been using a Zaon MRX PCAS for six years in a PA28 averaging 100hr per year mostly VFR but with some IMC. This device gives nearest transponder mode C/S within 5nm and +/- 1000 ft but no Azimuth. However  one can keep an eye on range/ALT  changing and figure out the threat. Radar or TCAS has to be interrogating, so the transponders reply and the Zaon device picks this up.

I have found it very useful.  I read all the Airprox reports and time after time they say both aircraft equipped with mode c/s but 
nobody was carrying a detector.

Sadly my detector has just gone u/s.
 
There are  a lot of transponder equipped GA aircraft out there and it immediately feels uncomfortable not to have the device. 

SE2+SD with this basic feature would be a very good idea and of course there would be the other traffic warnings from
ADSB and Flarm. 

Some might think not having Azimuth is a serious drawback but I bet they have never used a range/ALT device over a 
long time as I have.

I trust  you are right about the long term but a SE2 would be ordered tomorrow if you said you would fix my problem and I 
would not worry if you were going to collect an extra £ 30 per year from me just for the mode c/s traffic info! 

Keep up the good work

You could simply replace the Zaon by a Monroy with directional antenna and even ARINC429 if wished, would give the same, but with the same increased uncertainty on distance.


Thanks for the suggestion Markus, but still hoping TD will help out.
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Bealeyman - 2/13/2019 8:19:39 PM
Tim, thanks for your response.
 
I have been using a Zaon MRX PCAS for six years in a PA28 averaging 100hr per year mostly VFR but with some IMC. This device gives nearest transponder mode C/S within 5nm and +/- 1000 ft but no Azimuth. However  one can keep an eye on range/ALT  changing and figure out the threat. Radar or TCAS has to be interrogating, so the transponders reply and the Zaon device picks this up.

I have found it very useful.  I read all the Airprox reports and time after time they say both aircraft equipped with mode c/s but 
nobody was carrying a detector.

Sadly my detector has just gone u/s.
 
There are  a lot of transponder equipped GA aircraft out there and it immediately feels uncomfortable not to have the device. 

SE2+SD with this basic feature would be a very good idea and of course there would be the other traffic warnings from
ADSB and Flarm. 

Some might think not having Azimuth is a serious drawback but I bet they have never used a range/ALT device over a 
long time as I have.

I trust  you are right about the long term but a SE2 would be ordered tomorrow if you said you would fix my problem and I 
would not worry if you were going to collect an extra £ 30 per year from me just for the mode c/s traffic info! 

Keep up the good work

You could simply replace the Zaon by a Monroy with directional antenna and even ARINC429 if wished, would give the same, but with the same increased uncertainty on distance.

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Tim, thanks for your response.
 
I have been using a Zaon MRX PCAS for six years in a PA28 averaging 100hr per year mostly VFR but with some IMC. This device gives nearest transponder mode C/S within 5nm and +/- 1000 ft but no Azimuth. However  one can keep an eye on range/ALT  changing and figure out the threat. Radar or TCAS has to be interrogating, so the transponders reply and the Zaon device picks this up.

I have found it very useful.  I read all the Airprox reports and time after time they say both aircraft equipped with mode c/s but 
nobody was carrying a detector.

Sadly my detector has just gone u/s.
 
There are  a lot of transponder equipped GA aircraft out there and it immediately feels uncomfortable not to have the device. 

SE2+SD with this basic feature would be a very good idea and of course there would be the other traffic warnings from
ADSB and Flarm. 

Some might think not having Azimuth is a serious drawback but I bet they have never used a range/ALT device over a 
long time as I have.

I trust  you are right about the long term but a SE2 would be ordered tomorrow if you said you would fix my problem and I 
would not worry if you were going to collect an extra £ 30 per year from me just for the mode c/s traffic info! 

Keep up the good work

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Tim Dawson - 2/11/2019 11:13:00 AM
If you wait before investing in ADSB-out equipment (or some other form of EC) then you are really part of the problem you're complaining about.

It is not that easy. There is a reason why the US decided to go on a second frequency for UAT and the UK launched the test bed. My bet, if we all go ADS-B-Out on 1090 and that is the only viable option for flying across Europe now, we see exactly the congestion the US feared.

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The Skyecho 2 'what it does' description says that Mode C/S proximity is detected but SD seems not to be supporting this. 
What is going on here? It will work with Forflight and Easy VFR I am told, but I know little of that as I am a long time and happy user of SD.

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