8.33-kHz-spacing in Germany

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8.33-kHz-spacing in Germany

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Hetzenauer	H Hetzenauer posted 1/4/2018 7:22:40 PM HOT Topic Details Share Topic
H Group: Forum Members Posts: 32, Visits: 15	Hi! Since most of the radio frequencies in Germany have already been changed by the 1st of January to comply with the 8.33-kHz-channel spacing requirements we have to use them right now. Some of the new frequencies can be found here: http://www.aeroclub-nrw.de/wpaero/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1-1192-17_sig.pdf Others are published by NOTAM only... I downloaded the newest data today for SD but it seemes none of them were included in AIRAC 1801. When can we expect to have them changed? Thx in advance, Björn
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 1/10/2018 4:50:49 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8.2K, Visits: 9.5K	Airfield frequency data in Germany is sourced directly from DFS, so as soon as the AIP data is changed you'll also see the SkyDemon data changed.
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Hetzenauer	H Hetzenauer posted 1/10/2018 4:57:39 PM Post Details Share Post
H Group: Forum Members Posts: 32, Visits: 15	Ok, thank you for your response. Best, Björn
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 1/24/2018 2:49:35 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8.2K, Visits: 9.5K	That sounds like the kind of Germanic scaremongering that is unfortunately very prevalent in GA. It often seems to start with "from what I heard..." The permanent source for frequency information is the AIP. If something has changed and the AIP hasn't yet been updated to reflect this, hopefully the change will be in a NOTAM, or perhaps in a SUP. SkyDemon gives pilots access to all of these. ‌‌
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Hetzenauer	H Hetzenauer posted 1/24/2018 6:56:45 PM Post Details Share Post
H Group: Forum Members Posts: 32, Visits: 15	„the kind of Germanic scaremongering“ Ich weiß ja, dass er Engländer ist und durch die dortige Tagespresse noch Deftigeres gewohnt ist, aber als deutscher Kunde bin ich gerade ein wenig irritiert. Naja, wahrscheinlich bin ich nur etwas zu empfindlich schüttel ;-)
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Hartmut	Hartmut posted 3/15/2018 6:42:18 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 2, Visits: 0	I called the DFS and asked them how in the world someone should know of these new frequencies. This switch has been scheduled for decades, yet there is no organised way of information transmission. T‌he best way is to call FIS and ask them for advice, yet these frequencies can't be dialed in often with the spacing set to 8.33khz. H‌owever, The DFS Manged to publish an update on the frequencies of most German small air fields: https://www.dfs.de/dfs_homepage/de/Services/Customer%20Relations/Kundenbereich%20VFR/05.03.2018%20-%208,33%20kHz-Umstellung/AIC_VFR_02_18_15MAR2018.pdf I‌t may require a user account , therefore I'll try to attach the file and the addendum. G‌ood flights. If anyone has the new frequencies for the German FIS sectors to share, let me know‌ ‌‌‌Since these frequencies had been published by such a late time, I don't think they'll make it into the printed maps. The official publishing date for those is‌ end of March. I‌t is like last year when the Czech republic moved to the 8.33 channel spacing - no map had the new frequencies, only SKYDEMON was up tpo dat! T‌hanks SKYDEMON , this is the way to go.‌ Attachments AIC_VFR_02_18_15MAR2018.pdf (749 views, 454.00 KB) 8.33KHz_Frequenzliste-Ergänzung_AIC.pdf (757 views, 72.00 KB)
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