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vikino - 8/4/2023 7:57:32 PM

Well...

lets take this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32967247206.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.58.166c1802dSZoK5

I have tested theese BT-RS232 modules a lot by my self, it works great with Dynon EFIS-D100 + AP74 autopilot and Trig TY96 COM radio, also without any issue with KRT2 COM radio. You just need to "match" baudrate to 4800 or 9600bps, that should do in this case SkyDemon, afterwards it works like a charm, no drop outs with Samsung tablets or my phone Samsung S23 Ultra.

And all another BT to RS232 work in the same way like this one, all are in the phone as bluetooth com port, all this seems to me much easier and more stable than 3rd party devices which are connected over wifi. Not talking about that you kill your internal data sim when connected to wifi of "ADAHRS" and so on...

This will just work perfectly.

Btw., with this, you can go to compleete system, because when you connect to this serial converter also Garrecht TRX1500 (for example), you can use SkyDemon as traffic display - by using GTX TIS protocol over that single BT-RS232 module.

In the same way i have it with Garmin AERA 760, but planning a route is terrible on that device, but Garmin has built in RS232...

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/18/2024 8:44:51 PM

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

I'm not sure I understood you correctly, you only connected ONE bluetooth device to the Funke radio AND to the Dynon autopilot? How did you do that?

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vikino - 11/23/2024 11:20:57 AM

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/18/2024 8:44:51 PM

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

I'm not sure I understood you correctly, you only connected ONE bluetooth device to the Funke radio AND to the Dynon autopilot? How did you do that?

Yes, i have on one IRXON Trig radio and Dynon AP... Just use the same RS232 wire for both...

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/23/2024 3:10:34 PM

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vikino - 11/23/2024 11:20:57 AM

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/18/2024 8:44:51 PM

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

I'm not sure I understood you correctly, you only connected ONE bluetooth device to the Funke radio AND to the Dynon autopilot? How did you do that?

Yes, i have on one IRXON Trig radio and Dynon AP... Just use the same RS232 wire for both...

Well, RS232 is defined as a bidirectional point-to-point connection. If you only send in one direction, this is possible. 

This workaround is called multidrop. This only works if there is ONE transmitter and multiple receivers. The recipients all receive the same data packets and discard those they do not understand. As soon as the receivers also have to react, this concept with RS232 fails. 

Devices transmitting at the same time lead to collisions. The transmission becomes unreadable. 

I believe SD has only sent over BLE so far. Some devices, e.g. the Becker AR6201 also need to send data to SD, and then multidrop will fail. 

I assume that each controlled device has to use its own BLE. Maybe Tim can say something about that?

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vikino - 11/24/2024 1:43:26 PM

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/23/2024 3:10:34 PM

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vikino - 11/23/2024 11:20:57 AM

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/18/2024 8:44:51 PM

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

+x

 

Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

I'm not sure I understood you correctly, you only connected ONE bluetooth device to the Funke radio AND to the Dynon autopilot? How did you do that?

Yes, i have on one IRXON Trig radio and Dynon AP... Just use the same RS232 wire for both...

Well, RS232 is defined as a bidirectional point-to-point connection. If you only send in one direction, this is possible. 

This workaround is called multidrop. This only works if there is ONE transmitter and multiple receivers. The recipients all receive the same data packets and discard those they do not understand. As soon as the receivers also have to react, this concept with RS232 fails. 

Devices transmitting at the same time lead to collisions. The transmission becomes unreadable. 

I believe SD has only sent over BLE so far. Some devices, e.g. the Becker AR6201 also need to send data to SD, and then multidrop will fail. 

I assume that each controlled device has to use its own BLE. Maybe Tim can say something about that?

If becker needs to send back (dont understand why, because it should only receive freq from SD, bi direction is used on glass cockpits when you control com via display and you need to see tuned freq im case that you tune freq manually on radio, this is not feature in SD, so no need to com back from radio), and if, then its still not an issue, because AP only receives, so the TX line from IRXON goes to becker and AP and TX from becker to RX irxon, there will be still only one bidirectional device...

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/18/2024 8:44:51 PM

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jekroth - 11/15/2024 3:07:38 PM

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Tim Dawson - 7/5/2023 9:13:53 AM

No, not until there is a device with widespread uptake in the community that we can actually develop with. We can't just "support Bluetooth" without a known device to develop and test with.

Hello I have connected 1 bluetooth device to Funke radio and Dynon autopilot. It works great with Android but doesn't work with iPhone. With iphone you have to choose radio or Ap. Did we miss something or does it not work to control both with the iPhone. Is there anything that solves this? or should I mount 2 bluetooth units one yill radio and the other for AP

I'm not sure I understood you correctly, you only connected ONE bluetooth device to the Funke radio AND to the Dynon autopilot? How did you do that?