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IGN 1/500000 map for France


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I'm a PPL instructor in France.
A French regulation makes it mandatory to overfly cities and towns at a minimum height depending on the size of the town.
The official regulation (arreté de 1957) says that the size of the town are shown on the IGN (Institut Geographique National) 1/500000 map.
So I must in practice teach navigation with that IGN map as it is the only source of information available.
As it is not available in Skydemon I just cannot recommend Skydemon to my students, and they go for SDVFR or Flymate instead. It's a shame as Skydemon is I think the best VFR navigation app. Once they get used to another app, they won't change.

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C82R - 1/2/2022 10:20:31 AM
I'm a PPL instructor in France.
A French regulation makes it mandatory to overfly cities and towns at a minimum height depending on the size of the town.
The official regulation (arreté de 1957) says that the size of the town are shown on the IGN (Institut Geographique National) 1/500000 map.
So I must in practice teach navigation with that IGN map as it is the only source of information available.
As it is not available in Skydemon I just cannot recommend Skydemon to my students, and they go for SDVFR or Flymate instead. It's a shame as Skydemon is I think the best VFR navigation app. Once they get used to another app, they won't change.

Hi C82R,
I was just curious, because I could not believe, that one has to check maps other than the official aeronautical charts.
French AIP ENR 1.1-3 references to ICAO charts, in which the size class of a town is shown.
As this information seems to be available in the official aviation data world, I could imagine to have it implemented in SD by using different symbols on the SD charts.
It will be a special piece of software for France: i.e. in German ICAO charts, towns are classified by the number of inhabitants and there is no such special regulation. 



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Gerhard66 - 1/2/2022 2:56:05 PM
C82R - 1/2/2022 10:20:31 AM
I'm a PPL instructor in France.
A French regulation makes it mandatory to overfly cities and towns at a minimum height depending on the size of the town.
The official regulation (arreté de 1957) says that the size of the town are shown on the IGN (Institut Geographique National) 1/500000 map.
So I must in practice teach navigation with that IGN map as it is the only source of information available.
As it is not available in Skydemon I just cannot recommend Skydemon to my students, and they go for SDVFR or Flymate instead. It's a shame as Skydemon is I think the best VFR navigation app. Once they get used to another app, they won't change.

Hi C82R,
I was just curious, because I could not believe, that one has to check maps other than the official aeronautical charts.
French AIP ENR 1.1-3 references to ICAO charts, in which the size class of a town is shown.
As this information seems to be available in the official aviation data world, I could imagine to have it implemented in SD by using different symbols on the SD charts.
It will be a special piece of software for France: i.e. in German ICAO charts, towns are classified by the number of inhabitants and there is no such special regulation. 




It's the map I was talking about. The 1/500000 IGN ICAO Map. It is only available from IGN. The official size of the towns are nowhere else available. You can freely access to the map through https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/.
IGN is the sole  ICAO maps publisher to provide the information. Without the 1/500000 IGN ICAO map you just can't make sure that you are not braking the rule when overflying a town below 5000ft AGL.
As an instructor, I hence must demand that my students use this map. If they want to use an app, I cannot recommend Skydemon and it's a shame. So it will be Airmate.


Edited 1/2/2022 9:00:09 PM by C82R
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C82R - 1/2/2022 8:45:14 PM
It's the map I was talking about. The 1/500000 IGN ICAO Map. It is only available from IGN. The official size of the towns are nowhere else available. You can freely access to the map through https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/.
IGN is the sole  ICAO maps publisher to provide the information. Without the 1/500000 IGN ICAO map you just can't make sure that you are not braking the rule when overflying a town below 5000ft AGL.

One might want to add that you need to enter "Carte OACI VFR" in the search box on https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr to find & open the map.

This is how the color coding looks like:




Edited 1/5/2022 11:34:56 AM by Daniel_KDF
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C82R - 1/9/2022 7:23:05 PM
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