Missing FMC in Schiphol TMA

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Missing FMC in Schiphol TMA

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Scoobydoo	S Scoobydoo posted 7/27/2020 7:07:17 PM HOT Topic Details Share Topic
S Group: Forum Members Posts: 26, Visits: 0	Hello, I‘m working on a route from Germany to Lelystad ( EHLE ). When I opened the approach VFR Chart of EHLE I received the information : Below 1500 ft TMA 1 Schiphol monitor 124.300 and FMC 7020 . This area is all around Amsterdam but not shown anywhere in Skydemon. A friend of mine is using foreflight, and they inform you immediately about it. How is it possible to be shown in SD as well? Greetings Dirk
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 8/13/2020 9:09:47 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8.2K, Visits: 9.7K	Have you found it shown on an ICAO chart at all?
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Scoobydoo	S Scoobydoo posted 8/13/2020 10:05:35 AM Post Details Share Post
S Group: Forum Members Posts: 26, Visits: 0	+x Tim Dawson - 8/13/2020 9:09:47 AM Have you found it shown on an ICAO chart at all? In fact I have not. But it is displayed in Skydemon hidden at the frequencies. So why not showing them on the map, where it makes sense for the planing and while flying?
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pilot-byom	p pilot-byom posted 8/13/2020 11:19:11 AM Post Details Share Post
p Group: Forum Members Posts: 323, Visits: 388	+x Tim Dawson - 8/13/2020 9:09:47 AM Have you found it shown on an ICAO chart at all? I was not aware of the issue until I read the thread, so thanks to the poster. My current ICAO charts do show them: Edited 8/13/2020 11:58:36 AM by pilot-byom
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Ibex	I Ibex posted 8/13/2020 2:35:14 PM Post Details Share Post
I Group: Forum Members Posts: 7, Visits: 77	+x Tim Dawson - 8/13/2020 9:09:47 AM Have you found it shown on an ICAO chart at all? For Italy the FMCs are not depicted on the ICAO charts - but those are rubbish for many reasons and not used by anyone. The "official" FMC charts are hidden in the AIP ENR 6.4.1 & ENR 6.4.3 for Milan and Rome FIR respectively. It wouldn't be Italy if it was straight forward, but nevertheless those FMCs are mandatory AFAIK.
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Missing FMC in Schiphol TMA

Scoobydoo - 7/27/2020 7:07:17 PM

It is shown in the PLOG as ‘Listening Squawk’. Once in Navigation...

grahamb - 7/28/2020 5:39:58 AM

Thanks for your quick answer. @ Tim is it possible to set it up...

Scoobydoo - 7/28/2020 9:08:10 AM

It isn't a TMZ, so we wouldn't ordinarily show it as one. I don't...

Tim Dawson - 7/28/2020 9:51:15 AM

Hi Tim, I understand that it is not a TMZ and should therefore not be...

Scoobydoo - 7/28/2020 1:32:55 PM

Same issue, different area. The FMC Milano North shows up only in the...

Ibex - 8/9/2020 9:53:54 AM

Yes I certainly would appreciate it as well. As an option it is a...

Scoobydoo - 8/10/2020 7:05:39 PM

We'll consider showing them on the maps. It isn't clear how they would...

Tim Dawson - 8/11/2020 9:16:36 AM

Hey Tim, thanks for thinking about it.

Scoobydoo - 8/11/2020 2:50:28 PM

If you think they are particularly well represented on some other...

Tim Dawson - 8/12/2020 9:15:10 AM

Hey Tim, Here is an idea of how Foreflight solved the issue. Maybe...

Scoobydoo - 8/12/2020 9:05:24 PM

RE: Missing FMC in Schiphol TMA

Scoobydoo - 8/12/2020 11:50:43 PM

RE: Missing FMC in Schiphol TMA

Scoobydoo - 8/13/2020 7:53:55 AM

Have you found it shown on an ICAO chart at all?

Tim Dawson - 8/13/2020 9:09:47 AM

In fact I have not. But it is displayed in Skydemon hidden at the...

Scoobydoo - 8/13/2020 10:05:35 AM

I was not aware of the issue until I read the thread, so thanks to the...

pilot-byom - 8/13/2020 11:19:11 AM

For Italy the FMCs are not depicted on the ICAO charts - but those are...

Ibex - 8/13/2020 2:35:14 PM

Are these mandatory FMCs, or voluntary (as in the UK)? Do they ever...

grahamb - 8/13/2020 10:48:11 AM

Thanks. We've got some ideas.

Tim Dawson - 8/13/2020 2:52:06 PM

Thank you Tim for your support. Looking forward to your ideas.

Scoobydoo - 8/13/2020 3:16:47 PM

Hello, About Italian FMC: here you can find the AIC document which...

mxb - 8/13/2020 10:55:39 PM

Hey Tim, what are your ideas doing? Any know options for that issue...

Scoobydoo - 8/21/2020 5:57:47 AM

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