Approach data as in Jeppesen MFD VFR

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Approach data as in Jeppesen MFD VFR

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screen	s screen posted 4/10/2020 11:08:25 AM HOT Topic Details Share Topic
s Group: Forum Members Posts: 20, Visits: 72	Hello dear forum, I've been flying with Skydemon for a while now, because Jeppesen MFD VFR has been taken off the market. Unfortunately, I personally miss some important things. For example, at Friedrichshafen Airport (EDNY) there is no height information for the mandatory reporting points. Furthermore, the waiting round (holding pattern) is missing. The parking lot for general aviation was also located at MFD VFR etc. Due to the lack of such important features, the program is unfortunately not yet perfect. If Skydemon displayed the rounds etc. as in MFD VFR, many pilots would switch to this product. LG from Austria
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/27/2020 8:58:05 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8.1K, Visits: 9.2K	Out of interest, what is your opposition to using the VFR AIP which is the source of that information? It is well integrated into SkyDemon. Someone else pointed out that the combined cost of SkyDemon and the VFR AIP is less than the Jeppesen product used to cost.
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pilot-byom	p pilot-byom posted 4/27/2020 9:29:53 AM Post Details Share Post
p Group: Forum Members Posts: 323, Visits: 388	+x Tim Dawson - 4/27/2020 8:58:05 AM Out of interest, what is your opposition to using the VFR AIP which is the source of that information? It is well integrated into SkyDemon. Someone else pointed out that the combined cost of SkyDemon and the VFR AIP is less than the Jeppesen product used to cost. Dear Tim Dawson, it is a widespread misbelief that looking at a Skydemon graphical map representation of "the world, the airspaces and everything" is sufficient as replacement for a proper flight preparation. We don't have to start an academic discussion on the stupidity of such misconception. I agree Skydemon has come to a real nice maturity as navigational aid including the VFR AIP, but everybody has to repeat over and over agin - it is only a 80 to 90 percent aid, no replacement. Best Markus
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Johannes B.	J Johannes B. posted 5/2/2020 8:50:00 AM Post Details Share Post
J Group: Forum Members Posts: 48, Visits: 1	+x MarkusM - 4/27/2020 9:29:53 AM +x Tim Dawson - 4/27/2020 8:58:05 AM Out of interest, what is your opposition to using the VFR AIP which is the source of that information? It is well integrated into SkyDemon. Someone else pointed out that the combined cost of SkyDemon and the VFR AIP is less than the Jeppesen product used to cost. Dear Tim Dawson, it is a widespread misbelief that looking at a Skydemon graphical map representation of "the world, the airspaces and everything" is sufficient as replacement for a proper flight preparation. We don't have to start an academic discussion on the stupidity of such misconception. I agree Skydemon has come to a real nice maturity as navigational aid including the VFR AIP, but everybody has to repeat over and over agin - it is only a 80 to 90 percent aid, no replacement. Best Markus Which missing 10 to 20% are you referring to? Surely it is partially necessary to check alternate sources of information such as the weather or airfield websites for local specialties as for example noise abaitment procedures due to critical residents. But these are aspects I do not require or demand from a navigation software such as SkyDemon. YouTube channel
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Gerhard66	G Gerhard66 posted 5/2/2020 9:26:50 AM Post Details Share Post
G Group: Forum Members Posts: 168, Visits: 355	Dear Markus, I’m a little bit worried about your statement (... 80 to 90% ...)! Besides weather briefing and legally irrelevant local specialities, can you please provide just one or two examples, that show clearly SD (with extra paid AIPs included) does not provide sufficient information w.r.t. legally correct flight planning. Thanks Gerhard
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Approach data as in Jeppesen MFD VFR

screen - 4/10/2020 11:08:25 AM

Hi screen,I was curious and found some georeferenced charts in SD:I...

Gerhard66 - 4/10/2020 11:46:14 AM

why can't you display this information directly on the map of...

screen - 4/10/2020 11:57:54 AM

What makes you think the VRPs at EDNY have a designated level...

Tim Dawson - 4/14/2020 9:00:18 AM

This is a screenshot from Jeppesen MFD, here the heights of the...

screen - 4/14/2020 5:27:52 PM

Your screenshots look like scanned, used paper charts. Maybe, they’re...

Gerhard66 - 4/14/2020 8:03:24 PM

Yes, it is a screenshot of a printout of the approach chart. The card...

screen - 4/15/2020 11:39:44 AM

What was the price of an annual subscription to MFD, including all the...

grahamb - 4/15/2020 1:42:48 PM

All of Europe cost € 297 .-- including 3 days weather forecast, GAFOR...

screen - 4/15/2020 3:13:50 PM

+ x [quote] [b] screen - 4/15/2020 3:13:50 PM [/b]...

grahamb - 4/15/2020 6:08:25 PM

Thank you for the bill :-)But I fly not only in Germany, but also in...

screen - 4/15/2020 7:23:27 PM

screen, I asked you what made you think the reporting points had a...

Tim Dawson - 4/16/2020 9:42:31 AM

this is a current screenshot of foreflight, are they wrong in this...

screen - 4/16/2020 9:16:41 PM

Yes - they use exactly the same data as the Jeppesen product. I...

Tim Dawson - 4/20/2020 8:56:54 AM

After consultation with the EDNY air traffic control center, they...

screen - 4/20/2020 1:11:44 PM

It is clear from the German VFR AIP that there is maximumaltitude of...

lhe - 4/21/2020 5:19:08 PM

screen - yes, again you were told this on page 1 of this thread....

Tim Dawson - 4/22/2020 8:33:07 AM

Thanks for the answer, Jeppesen MFD VFR had entered all information...

screen - 4/23/2020 6:27:51 PM

Out of interest, what is your opposition to using the VFR AIP which is...

Tim Dawson - 4/27/2020 8:58:05 AM

Dear Tim Dawson, it is a widespread misbelief that looking at a...

pilot-byom - 4/27/2020 9:29:53 AM

Which missing 10 to 20% are you referring to? Surely it is partially...

Johannes B. - 5/2/2020 8:50:00 AM

Dear Markus,I’m a little bit worried about your statement (... 80 to...

Gerhard66 - 5/2/2020 9:26:50 AM

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