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Norway sporting areas missing


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HI
I noticed that the Norway Sporting Areas are not longer there on the latest chart update... (Norway AIP ENR 6.6-1)

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Thanks Chris. It isn't quite as easy as that; sporting areas are treated very differently by different countries, there's no standardisation of them, and they range from hazards as serious as winch launching (which we definitely don't want the user to hide) to things like seldom-used airspace divisions that are really only useful for glider pilots.

Norway seems to have a mixture of these in ENR 5.5 without differentiating them. Are you saying all of them fall into the category of "first come first served" with ATC? The fact they are omitted in Avinor's own charts is interesting.

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Tim Dawson - 3/31/2020 9:35:42 AM
Thanks Chris. It isn't quite as easy as that; sporting areas are treated very differently by different countries, there's no standardisation of them, and they range from hazards as serious as winch launching (which we definitely don't want the user to hide) to things like seldom-used airspace divisions that are really only useful for glider pilots.

Norway seems to have a mixture of these in ENR 5.5 without differentiating them. Are you saying all of them fall into the category of "first come first served" with ATC? The fact they are omitted in Avinor's own charts is interesting.

Hi again. I truly appreciate the efforts you guys are doing considering the lack of standard across countries regarding airspaces. As far as I know all the areas listed in ENR 5.5 may be active/de-active on short notice. The busiest sporting areas are located around Oslo, and these are shown together with other airspace in a separate chart ENR 6.6-1. Avinors other en route charts in the AIP are not showing the sporting areas as they would cause a large cluttering effect, but the areas have always been shown on the ICAO paper charts. I have not seen the 2020 edition of ICAO, but would be very surprised if the sporting areas are omitted from these as there are still some pilots that use paper charts. As far as i am concerned, the way SD showed and treated the Norwegian Sporting Airspaces were just fine, so it would be great if you can continue this on future chart updates.

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chrispilot - 3/29/2020 6:45:26 AM
Tim Dawson - 3/30/2020 9:12:37 AM
chrispilot - 3/31/2020 6:31:46 AM
Tim Dawson - 3/31/2020 9:35:42 AM
chrispilot - 3/31/2020 4:26:49 PM
custardwings - 4/14/2020 2:46:06 PM
grahamb - 4/14/2020 6:04:30 PM
custardwings - 4/14/2020 6:47:03 PM
Tim Dawson - 4/16/2020 9:37:07 AM
custardwings - 4/16/2020 9:49:52 AM
stelaninja - 4/18/2020 2:20:26 AM
custardwings - 4/18/2020 12:17:42 PM
trettum - 4/17/2020 11:02:08 PM
Tim Dawson - 4/20/2020 8:58:16 AM

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