Hi

It will be very nice to see the frequencies directly beside the name of the airfield, like this:



Its much more easy to contact a airfield on route to ask for activities or something.
Could you implement this, maybe as an selectable option?

Chris

We would resist such a move because they clutter the map. Generally people seem quite happy to find the frequency with a couple of taps on the map.

But all requests are asking for an optional feature like the choice of ICAO or name or both.

Exactly, its just a option, please insert this additional checkbox and let the user choose.
And I'm definitely not alone who miss this very much. Now you need 3 taps to see a frequency. 3 taps in turbulent contitions drive you crazy.....


Chris

Good Idea - I second that!

We occasionally add such options but for popular requests. This (at present) is very much not a popular request.

Maybe its a good idea to make survey for this (and maybe other) request?

I talked with some users of Skydemon and all of them want the frequencies....

Chris

I Iike the idea of having the choice to see the freqs of aerodromes on the moving map. Great idea.

Eric

Folks

I strongly disagree - the map is cluttered anyway. There is a subitem called radio under the Skydemon globe, gives you all frequencies you need to know . I would rather advocate for having this radio information with one (long) tap, instead of two!

Mike,

we are requesting an OPTION, you are not forced to use it.

Yes just a option! It seems hard to understand...

Chris

Chris

In this case it's not about feasibility, it's about necessity. In my opinion you're asking for eye candy here. All information you need is accessible in an easy way, as Tim already mentioned. Every 'just an option'  needs to be developed, integrated, tested & finalised. Every 'just an option' leads to a more & more bloated code and slows down the whole software eventually. I use SD a couple of years, but I fear we don't see the wood for the trees increasingly.

just my 2c

-mike

Mike, you understand me totally wrong.
"Just an option" doesn't mean, it easy to implement, it mean you are not forced to use it. Okay?

You mean, its accessible in an easy way? Are you serious? You have to tap three times (!) to see just a frequency. Sorry, in my opinion thats not easy, and for sure its not easy in turbulent conditions.

Chris

Well, you need two taps (SD orb -> Radio) and that does not only reveal one frequency, but rather all that are relevant in your current position. I very much prefer to access the information that way as opposed to another layer in the basemap.

Tobias

If you prefer this way, go for it... Again: Option!

Chris

Chris

you're asking for the implementation of a new layer to be presented in an obsolete way. SD is a intelligent software in supporting you with the right information at the right time. Why pursuing a track of permanent display of information without need? How would you display a big airports galore of initial frequencies? Tim won't give you a toggle in a prominent spot, in case some valuable information is hidden behind .  In my opinion we should force the option to get the radio window with ONE tap/long press somewhere on the main screen. I'm arguing over this with Tim for ages, until now without countable result. My proposal would be a double tap on the virtual radar, because its big - hence easy to invoke even in bumpy skys!

-mike

The software don't know, what I need, like or want. If I think, I need the frequencies visible permanently like in the ICAO chart, it will be nice if I can customize it like I want.
Again (and again and again): If you don't need, like, want, whatever: You are not force to use it! Many user of SD would like to have this option, many not. Whats the problem to let the user choice?

Chris

Chris_LSZO,

there is no need to throw the toys out of the pram. Shifu is absolutely spot on with his remark, there is nothing more to add. 'Verschlimmbessern' is the fitting german idiom which characterize these processes. If you like to see the frequencies permanently, it´s a good choice to use an ICAO chart.

just my 2 cents

-mike

Ok, let it like it is, it doesn't matter. Wasted time here... I will tap again three times (in bumpy air 10 times...) to get a frequency and all is fine.


Chris

Chris

we could try to convince Tim to make it ONE EASY TAP, right?

nix für ungut ;-))

-mike

In one easy tap?
Thats not possible because:
- Generally people seem quite happy to find the frequency with a couple of taps on the map.
- This (at present) is very much not a popular request.
- It needs to be developed, integrated, tested & finalised
- It slows down the whole software eventually
- SD is a intelligent software in supporting you with the right information at the right time
- Start adding options indiscriminately and you have "optionware"
- And so on...
Who need frequencies accessible in a direct and easy way? Thats for dummies!

And now serious:
I talked with some pilots about navigation apps. Often they said: Skydemon looks very good, but I prefer a solution with implemented ICAO charts because........... there I can see the frequencies and this is very important for me, because I have to change it for some short requests very often.
Then I asked here for this and more or less 50% was agree with this idea for a option like the choice of ICAO or name or both.

But Again, it was wasted time. Let all like it ist.

Chris

If you need three taps, then you are not using the proper method...

See, surely your desire for this feature is legitimate - but so are others, and for your "problem" there is a very simple workaround.

Top three Skydemon bugs which really annoy me - and there is no alternative method to access that information:

1. Course presented as rhumb line and not as a great circle (has been discussed many times here)
2. ED-R150 in Germany not shown, so using SD at night will sooner or later put you in violation of the rules (see above)
3. IFR Procedure-Waypoints not included

Tobias

I agree that getting to radio frequencies could be easier - indeed I posted here asking for an optional layer over a year ago. I always have a paper PLOG in the aircraft, and that's always my first place to go to for expected frequencies, only going to the radio page for an unplanned diversion. An easier way to get the frequencies on screen (and in readably large text!) might be a good compromise.

Just my comments on the three issues raised above:

1) For the kind of VFR flying I do, the difference between rhumb line and great circle navigation is entirely a non-issue. The distance between waypoints is never more than, say 50 miles. And at these distances the two courses are, for all practical purposes, identica.

2) I would really value it highly if I knew positively, that the software I am using really includes ALL relevant VFR airspaces. No compromises here. There already is a toggle to switch between weekday and weekend map view. Why not day and night?

3) Including the conusing plethora of IFR waypoints (particularly transition and approach fixes) needlessly clutters the map while not adding much value for the pilot. Enroute fixes are different in that they are more sparsly spaced and often used for VFR reporting.

-- Chris.

Folks, I hope the level of disagreement on this thread illustrates precisely why we cannot please everybody. And no, adding lots of options doesn't please everybody either. You need to look no further than certain competitors in this area to see that. SkyDemon does not seek to please everybody; we seek to please the mass market. Our position at the top of the market reflects that and is one we are very happy with.

When we move to adopt new features or enrich existing features, we do it because of general feedback pushing us in that direction. Not specific feedback, not a couple of users on a forum (even if their friends agree) but on general feedback, from everyone - by email, forum and telephone. We receive sufficient feedback to know what our users want (they are not shy).

The next version of SkyDemon mentions explicitly in the Charts window the date that the installed chart is valid from. Yes, our charts are updated in line with the AIRAC cycle and always have been; I believe this is discussed on our website.