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Tony N
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I wanted to mark a location I flew over, so I used the option to create a user defined waypoint. That was simple.... I then wanted to have that waypoint available on my Skydemon Plan (on my Win 11 laptop). I couldn't figure out how to get the waypoint onto PC plan so had to ask the Skydemon helpdesk. As usual, a quick response. However, the process is very "clunky" and took approximately 10 separate actions to get the waypoint "synced" to SD plan. Could this be an area for future improvement to make the waypoint "sync" operation more user friendly? Thanks Tony
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Tim Dawson
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It should just be a case of pressing Sync on the device you added the waypoint to, then Sync on your PC, at which point it will appear. Short of fully automating the process, which we decided against, I am not clear how it could be simpler, but feel free to make a suggestion.
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Tony N
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Hi Tim, Hannah said that user defined waypoints are stored in a folder that isn't eligible for sync. These are the steps I have to accomplish and, perhaps, would benefit from streamlining? Tony
1. Waypoints dropped in flight are automatically stored to a folder that is not eligible for syncing.
2. The folder is locked to the device, which means it’s not part of the sync process. This is to ensure there is no loss of data due to duplication when syncing.
3. You’ll just need to select the waypoint in your library, and move it to a folder that is eligible for syncing.
4. To do this, go to Setup > User Waypoints and tap on the folder the waypoint is currently in. Select the waypoint, then scroll to the bottom of the window and tap the Folder location to choose a new folder.
5. Select (My Waypoints – “Eligible for Syncing”)
6. Rename waypoint to give it a more appropriate name
7. Tap Save when done, and then click on “Sync with Cloud”.
8. Finally, sync again on your other devices (laptop) to load the changes.
9. To do this, on my PC, click on the “Sync with Cloud” button that can be found in the User Waypoints library.
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Tim Dawson
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I see, so the issue is specific to waypoints that you drop in flight. We can't make that folder eligible for syncing because otherwise in all likelihood you'd end up losing waypoints when you then used a different device to drop waypoints, then synced from that one.
As I said, if you have ideas...
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Tony N
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+xI see, so the issue is specific to waypoints that you drop in flight. We can't make that folder eligible for syncing because otherwise in all likelihood you'd end up losing waypoints when you then used a different device to drop waypoints, then synced from that one.
As I said, if you have ideas... Hi Tim, Thank for the reply. Obviously I am not familiar with the internal workings/design of SD, but could dropped user defined way points be attached to "my" aircraft configuration file? That is accessible all the time be it from the mobile device used when flying or one's SD Plan. The normal "sync to cloud"/"load from cloud" should work? Or, even possibly, have a separate "category" of user settings (user waypoints) that are used to store user defined way points. Those settings get stored to the SD cloud for retrieval when required? Maybe not possible or too complex? Regards Tony
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Tim Dawson
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That's kind of the system we arrived at already, after (I promise) a great deal of consideration. The foldered storage of user waypoints, that is, which was invented in order to support waypoint syncing with a minimum potential for data loss.
One idea might be to make the UI for moving waypoints between folders a little easier, but it's not an obvious UI action so I'm not sure about that. It's also not clear how much of a widespread annoyance this is between users - I'd be curious to get input from others on here.
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+xThat's kind of the system we arrived at already, after (I promise) a great deal of consideration. The foldered storage of user waypoints, that is, which was invented in order to support waypoint syncing with a minimum potential for data loss.
One idea might be to make the UI for moving waypoints between folders a little easier, but it's not an obvious UI action so I'm not sure about that. It's also not clear how much of a widespread annoyance this is between users - I'd be curious to get input from others on here. I cant't say the current method is a big bugbear for me as I don't drop user waypoints that often and when I do it tends to be for quite temporary p urposes so I don't save them long term.
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Tony N
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+x+xThat's kind of the system we arrived at already, after (I promise) a great deal of consideration. The foldered storage of user waypoints, that is, which was invented in order to support waypoint syncing with a minimum potential for data loss.
One idea might be to make the UI for moving waypoints between folders a little easier, but it's not an obvious UI action so I'm not sure about that. It's also not clear how much of a widespread annoyance this is between users - I'd be curious to get input from others on here. I cant't say the current method is a big bugbear for me as I don't drop user waypoints that often and when I do it tends to be for quite temporary p urposes so I don't save them long term. HI Tim, It's not a great issue for me... I don't often create user defined way points and, personally, have only created a few. However, I was surprised by the number of steps I had to go through to sync the few I had created. I couldn't figure out why my attempts to sync didn't work, so had to contact Hannah to find out what to do. Perhaps more info needed in the User manual? Compared with other actions and processes in SD, syncing way points just seems very clunky. Thanks
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Tim Dawson
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Syncing waypoints is easy. It is designed to be easy and is used all the time very successfully.
This problem specifically is because they are "dropped" waypoints which by necessity go into an unsyncable folder, and the process of moving them from that folder into a different folder is a little clunky.
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