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Autopilot + COM freq. over BT to RS232


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Just read all 19 pages....
Great work all of you. 
My hangar mate has all the hardware installed and the BT unit is flashing at the right times and all looks good. We have the tablet looking like it is sending the radio freq to the radio but there is no reaction on the radio. 
My question is:
is the black banner that flashes across the SkyD screen when you send a freq coming back from the radio or is it SkyD derived? 
The Radio is a Filser 833AT or what ever. There is nothing in it's menu of manual referring to 232 inputs so I can't find anything in the radio that might need 'setting up', everything on the tablet end looks fine.
Has anyone got a Filser radio working with the Freq transfer? 

thanks Clive

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Clive - 2/20/2025 8:51:32 AM
Just read all 19 pages....
Great work all of you. 
My hangar mate has all the hardware installed and the BT unit is flashing at the right times and all looks good. We have the tablet looking like it is sending the radio freq to the radio but there is no reaction on the radio. 
My question is:
is the black banner that flashes across the SkyD screen when you send a freq coming back from the radio or is it SkyD derived? 
The Radio is a Filser 833AT or what ever. There is nothing in it's menu of manual referring to 232 inputs so I can't find anything in the radio that might need 'setting up', everything on the tablet end looks fine.
Has anyone got a Filser radio working with the Freq transfer? 

thanks Clive

Or even a Funke 833

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Clive - 2/20/2025 8:51:32 AM
Just read all 19 pages....
Great work all of you. 
My hangar mate has all the hardware installed and the BT unit is flashing at the right times and all looks good. We have the tablet looking like it is sending the radio freq to the radio but there is no reaction on the radio. 
My question is:
is the black banner that flashes across the SkyD screen when you send a freq coming back from the radio or is it SkyD derived? 
The Radio is a Filser 833AT or what ever. There is nothing in it's menu of manual referring to 232 inputs so I can't find anything in the radio that might need 'setting up', everything on the tablet end looks fine.
Has anyone got a Filser radio working with the Freq transfer? 

thanks Clive

Hi Clive, the black banner across the SD screen comes from SD itself. Every ATR833 should work. What type of BLE-Dongle do you use?

Michael

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john123 - 2/17/2025 2:18:53 PM
Hi, Does anyone have any information of how to upload frequencies to the Icom A220TSO? It does have a TXD and RXD pins on its 25way D and it also mentions that it can get frequency data from Garmin GPS units. I have spoken to Icom support but they don't know anything useful. On the older Icom units there was a stereo 2.5mm jack that had the serial lines but apparently the 2.5mm jack on the A220TSO is for Aux Audio??? Anyone can help?

Hi John, I don't know this device myself and don't have a device to try out. But if it says somewhere that Garmin devices can set the frequency, then it can only be the GTR 225 protocol. I would get a BLE adapter with RS232 and connect it. Then you know where you stand.

Michael

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Hi Michael, my hangar mate is at the airfield double checking his connections. 
BT578 V31 IRXON is the unit we were getting a transmit indication on the comms LED.
I'll let you know what he finds, Thanks Clive 

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Hello, first I introduce myself since it is my first intervention in this forum. My name is Pedro, I am from Spain, I have an ultralight plane and I like to fly and program my own instruments for my plane.

I am building the Bluetooth adapter to be able to send the autopilot information from Skydemon to an old TRUTRAK DIGIFLIGHT II autopilot but it is not capable of recognizing the NMEA sentences that the Skydemon sends it.

I have been analyzing the NMEA sentences that the Garmin GPSMAP 296 GPS sends and they are like this:

$GPRMC,111231,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*11
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41
$GPRMC,111232,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*12
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41
$GPRMC,111233,A,4041.3941,N,00036.84755,W,0.0,227.3,190225,0.8,W,D*13
$GPRMB,A,0.00,R,,EDNT,4859.7560,N,01053.0926,E,656.923,44.7,,V,D*41

However, the NMEA sentences that Skydemon currently throws are like this:

$GPRMC,111343,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111344,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111345,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111346,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111347,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111348,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111349,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111350,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111351,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111352,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111353,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR$GPRMC,111354,A,41$GPRMB,A,0.76,R,OR

That is, the NMEA frames of the Skydemon are missing all the information fields and also do not end with CR+LF (0x0D + 0x0A) so the TRUTRAK autopilot is not able to interpret the NMEA sentences correctly.

Could you please check and correct it.

PD.-
Thank you very much Tim for having implemented the new Bluetooth functions, it is something that has been needed for a long time to be able to use Skydemon as the main route planning source.
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SkyDemon certainly does terminate NMEA sentences with CR-LF. Otherwise, they wouldn't work!

To me the corrupted output you're showing indicates a problem with your BLE device or its configuration, or possibly a baud rate issue.

Edited 2/20/2025 2:50:14 PM by Tim Dawson
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Hello Tim, the transmission is at 9600, and analyzing the radio channel change frames, they do come out with CR+LF as you can see in the image. The only ones that do not come out with CR+LF are the NMEA ones.
The first image is with radio only output, and the second is with radio and autopilot. The third image is a capture of hex data in which it can be seen that the GPS frames do not add CR+LF and the frames is not full data.






A baud rate error is not possible since then they would all be wrong.

I use an Android tablet.

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A case of very small writing and parallax error was the problem with my hangar mates connection.
D connectors are truly the devils work….
Now fixed and all working fine with the Funke.
We were discussing how we still won’t have the solution to a load of twiddling when cross country in France tho.

I was particularly interested in Pedro’s comments and discussion as I’ve just submitted my paperwork for my Trutrak A/P.
So I’ll watch with interest the resolution. Currently I have an old G195 which happily drives my Trutrak but the SkyD version was my Hope!
I’ll buy the beers Pedro when you get it working if I can blag the resolution of you, and Tim.
Hope to be in Spain in the summer touring about.
Thanks everyone, regards Clive
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If anyone is still tinkering I have an unused Irxon BT758 Bluetooth Module with mini gender changer available £7 to include UK postage. Have bought a ready made solution  https://prodimex.co.uk/products/simpleble-for-trig-ty91-and-ty92-radios


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