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Hi,

I am a German pilot and often fly in Italy (north and middle).

In italy I miss Padova north and south radar frequency and in Germany Munich radar frequency - SkyDemon show me just the information frequency.

Any ideas Smile?

Best regards
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Can you contact support about this please? They will need to liaise with the person responsible for the Italian frequency data.
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The radar frequencies are missed a lot. And it's not consistent. Venezia Radar is there, also Milano Radar. Padova ist missing and for Germany I can't find any Radar Frequencies at all (except at the Airports).

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publicom - 6/27/2022 7:48:18 AM
for Germany I can't find any Radar Frequencies at all (except at the Airports).

That’s probably because for VFR outside controlled airspace the call sign is ‘Information’.

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grahamb - 6/27/2022 8:09:18 AM
publicom - 6/27/2022 7:48:18 AM
for Germany I can't find any Radar Frequencies at all (except at the Airports).

That’s probably because for VFR outside controlled airspace the call sign is ‘Information’.


That's why I'm talking about VFR inside controlled airspace.

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We list frequencies against airspace where the AIP defines them. In German the DFS have encouraged us NOT to list the radar frequency against controlled airspace as they want you to contact the relevant FIS first (for which we provide the frequency) who will give you the appropriate frequency to gain access to the controlled airspace.
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Tim Dawson - 6/27/2022 11:00:11 AM
We list frequencies against airspace where the AIP defines them. In German the DFS have encouraged us NOT to list the radar frequency against controlled airspace as they want you to contact the relevant FIS first (for which we provide the frequency) who will give you the appropriate frequency to gain access to the controlled airspace.


Ah, ok. Thank You for the Information. It's a pity because who would contact radar initially VFR? But if they think...
It would be even a much greater help i. e. in Italy, where you have to change frequency sometimes every couple of minutes.

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Can you give an example in Italy where the SkyDemon data falls short? I can check that we are showing whatever the AIP advises.
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Tim Dawson - 6/28/2022 9:27:11 AM
Can you give an example in Italy where the SkyDemon data falls short? I can check that we are showing whatever the AIP advises.

Yes, like philippauer said: Padova Radar.

Basically most Radar frequencies (also german) are in SkyDemon if they are responsible over a CTR or CTA. Then they are listed in „Whats here?“. Also Munich Radar can be found, but not in its area, but only if tapping on Munich Airfield.

That is the Problem: Milano Radar is over Verona CTR – Treviso Radar is over Treviso CTR. Padova is in between, but has no special Airfield, that would list its Frequency, as even Padova Airfield is under Treviso Radar.
The Advance to have all local Frequencies in the RADIO-Tab would be to check, if understood correct. Italian English is special...

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I've just spent some time studying AIP Italy ENR 2.1 and although Padova Radar exists there with a frequency of 119.175, there isn't any information about its coverage or when people are expected to use it. By contract, the FIS we do have geographical coverage for. Where are you getting the information about where to use this frequency?
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