France CAS at around RINTI - is it Class E or not?

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France CAS at around RINTI - is it Class E or not?

France CAS at around RINTI - is it Class E or not?

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arj	a arj posted 4/6/2021 10:33:53 AM HOT Topic Details Share Topic
a Group: Forum Members Posts: 18, Visits: 79	Hi! Just wanted to confirm - UK IGN chart shows French Class E south of RINTI at FL65-FL115 and Class D at FL115+, and SD does not show this. What is correct? Thanks! Regards, Alex.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/6/2021 11:31:35 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 9K	SkyDemon features the class D airspace but it's country-wide, so we don't show it on the main map. You can see it in Virtual Radar if you plan at that level. I can't see any evidence that class E airspace exists at that point.
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arj	a arj posted 4/6/2021 12:33:09 PM Post Details Share Post
a Group: Forum Members Posts: 18, Visits: 79	+x Tim Dawson - 4/6/2021 11:31:35 AM SkyDemon features the class D airspace but it's country-wide, so we don't show it on the main map. You can see it in Virtual Radar if you plan at that level. I can't see any evidence that class E airspace exists at that point. Hi Tim, Sent you a message with the chart that lists Class E, please take a look. Thanks! Regards, Alex.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/6/2021 1:23:24 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 9K	I don't do private messages on here, sorry. Unless it's an official French chart it isn't likely we'd be able to do anything with it.
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arj	a arj posted 4/6/2021 1:31:12 PM Post Details Share Post
a Group: Forum Members Posts: 18, Visits: 79	+x Tim Dawson - 4/6/2021 1:23:24 PM I don't do private messages on here, sorry. Unless it's an official French chart it isn't likely we'd be able to do anything with it. It's Official UK CAA chart - it shows Class E in France. And French chart don't show Class E as I think they are considering it IFR airspace?
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/6/2021 2:12:49 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 9K	Sorry I thought you said it was an IGN chart. You're referring to the NATS-produced 1:500,000 UK South chart?
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arj	a arj posted 4/6/2021 2:31:15 PM Post Details Share Post
a Group: Forum Members Posts: 18, Visits: 79	+x Tim Dawson - 4/6/2021 2:12:49 PM Sorry I thought you said it was an IGN chart. You're referring to the NATS-produced 1:500,000 UK South chart? Sorry, correct - standard half-mil, paper one.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/6/2021 2:57:27 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 9K	Thanks. I can't comment on why that chart might show class E there but I'll ask NATS. If I recall correctly, they do state somewhere on the chart that its depiction of French airspace shouldn't be considered accurate, so that is a possibility.
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arj	a arj posted 4/6/2021 3:10:55 PM Post Details Share Post
a Group: Forum Members Posts: 18, Visits: 79	+x Tim Dawson - 4/6/2021 2:57:27 PM Thanks. I can't comment on why that chart might show class E there but I'll ask NATS. If I recall correctly, they do state somewhere on the chart that its depiction of French airspace shouldn't be considered accurate, so that is a possibility. There is some AIP which (allegedly) specifies that airspace, plus the rule that all airways below FL115 are Class E. I'll come back later on that.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/6/2021 3:20:26 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 9K	I couldn't find anything in the AIP explicitly defining any class E at that point. However if all airways are considered class E implicitly, then we wouldn't show that in SkyDemon.
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