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Including FIR boundary estimate in Pilot Log


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Re-posting here from other forum as seems more appropriate!

I would find it useful to have the International FIR boundary estimate on the PLOG (perhaps as a pseudo waypoint) as that’s often asked for by ATC.  I have learned from the other forum that I can press and hold and select “what’s here” to get it, and that its also on the ATC FPL (which I knew but it doesn’t update in flight obviously, not is easily accessible).  Obviously You can create a waypoint at the boundary but in doing so it often slightly changes the track in/out and if using many different routes means many different user waypoints.

Any thoughts?  Thank you.

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SamW - 11/6/2020 2:40:49 PM
Re-posting here from other forum as seems more appropriate!

I would find it useful to have the International FIR boundary estimate on the PLOG (perhaps as a pseudo waypoint) as that’s often asked for by ATC.  I have learned from the other forum that I can press and hold and select “what’s here” to get it, and that its also on the ATC FPL (which I knew but it doesn’t update in flight obviously, not is easily accessible).  Obviously You can create a waypoint at the boundary but in doing so it often slightly changes the track in/out and if using many different routes means many different user waypoints.

Any thoughts?  Thank you.

What's wrong with using the 'Press/What's here' technique? ATC/Info don't care on a VFR flight whether you actually hit that time, it's just to given them an idea.

Equally, what's the problem with having a waypoint on the boundary, even if it does create an ever so slightly different track to and from? You don't have to save it as a 'User Waypoint' it can just be saved as part of the route; it doesn't live anywhere else.

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grahamb - 11/6/2020 2:53:33 PM
SamW - 11/6/2020 2:40:49 PM
Re-posting here from other forum as seems more appropriate!

I would find it useful to have the International FIR boundary estimate on the PLOG (perhaps as a pseudo waypoint) as that’s often asked for by ATC.  I have learned from the other forum that I can press and hold and select “what’s here” to get it, and that its also on the ATC FPL (which I knew but it doesn’t update in flight obviously, not is easily accessible).  Obviously You can create a waypoint at the boundary but in doing so it often slightly changes the track in/out and if using many different routes means many different user waypoints.

Any thoughts?  Thank you.

What's wrong with using the 'Press/What's here' technique? ATC/Info don't care on a VFR flight whether you actually hit that time, it's just to given them an idea.

Equally, what's the problem with having a waypoint on the boundary, even if it does create an ever so slightly different track to and from? You don't have to save it as a 'User Waypoint' it can just be saved as part of the route; it doesn't live anywhere else.

Hi Graham, I totally get what you are saying, I just find it messy. I like to give ATC an accurate time and I don’t like kinks in straight legs! Just thought an FIR estimate might be an easy thing to slip into a plog, as it would be if I were to have a paper one.

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As it is advised to use a waypoint at the international border anyways for flight planning, you should have it in the log already?
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Yes, what I’m suggesting is an auto generated one so that I can draw a straight line eg Dover to Calais and it will auto generate a waypoint at the FIR boundary.
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