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pilot-byom
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@pauls: AFAIK, the VFR/IFR is a tagged label originating from the one issuing the NOTAM, be it the airfield in question or somebody at the authorities
@Imamane: you should start immediately learning to look at the IFR NOTAM when flying Europe, because all the new GPS IFR procedures will be where the little guys fly and No, ATC is not providing separation in all cases. As VFR traffic in E you have to know where the SID and STAR are and starting a while ago you have to know in G where the GPS approaches and departures from small fields are.
My prognosis, in a not too far future we will see the death of VFR/IFR tags and get only NOTAM.
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lmamane
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+xYou always want to see all NOTAM, example, when an airport with IFR and VFR traffic changes SID and/or STAR by NOTAM, you definitely want to know that as a VFR pilot, because the heavy iron around you is appearing at a different place (don't ask why I know). When I was a VFR pilot, I had not been trained on where to find, and how to understand, SID and STAR charts, nor advised to look at them to understand where the heavy iron is. Typically SIDs and STARs with heavy iron are completely in controlled airspace, so ATC will separate you from them. In my view, VFR traffic plainly doesn't care where SIDs and STARs are.
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pauls
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+x+xWhile I recognise the utility for VFR pilots not to see IFR NOTAMs which would drown out NOTAMs relevant to them in non-relevant ones, I think: 1. This should at least be indicated on the NOTAM list; e.g. on the top "Filter: VFR" or "Filter: VFR next 24h" or whatever the filter is set to. 2. This VFR-only filtering should not be done, in the airport view, when IFR features are enabled. 3. It is debatable whether an IFR pilot filing a VFR flightplan wants to see IFR NOTAMs or not. I would err on the side of caution, and show IFR NOTAMs on a VFR flightplan on an account where IFR features are enabled. This could be an explicit per-flightplan setting.
You always want to see all NOTAM, example, when an airport with IFR and VFR traffic changes SID and/or STAR by NOTAM, you definitely want to know that as a VFR pilot, because the heavy iron around you is appearing at a different place (don't ask why I know). doesnt anyone know the "rules" that are used to filter in and out NOTAMs? Perhaps that is where the issue is>?
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pilot-byom
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+xWhile I recognise the utility for VFR pilots not to see IFR NOTAMs which would drown out NOTAMs relevant to them in non-relevant ones, I think: 1. This should at least be indicated on the NOTAM list; e.g. on the top "Filter: VFR" or "Filter: VFR next 24h" or whatever the filter is set to. 2. This VFR-only filtering should not be done, in the airport view, when IFR features are enabled. 3. It is debatable whether an IFR pilot filing a VFR flightplan wants to see IFR NOTAMs or not. I would err on the side of caution, and show IFR NOTAMs on a VFR flightplan on an account where IFR features are enabled. This could be an explicit per-flightplan setting.
You always want to see all NOTAM, example, when an airport with IFR and VFR traffic changes SID and/or STAR by NOTAM, you definitely want to know that as a VFR pilot, because the heavy iron around you is appearing at a different place (don't ask why I know).
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lmamane
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While I recognise the utility for VFR pilots not to see IFR NOTAMs which would drown out NOTAMs relevant to them in non-relevant ones, I think: 1. This should at least be indicated on the NOTAM list; e.g. on the top "Filter: VFR" or "Filter: VFR next 24h" or whatever the filter is set to. 2. This VFR-only filtering should not be done, in the airport view, when IFR features are enabled. 3. It is debatable whether an IFR pilot filing a VFR flightplan wants to see IFR NOTAMs or not. I would err on the side of caution, and show IFR NOTAMs on a VFR flightplan on an account where IFR features are enabled. This could be an explicit per-flightplan setting.
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marioair
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I agree. There’s another thread on a very similar issue.
Until ICAO sort out intelligent NOTAMs I think at the very least SD should show all NOTAMs by default
Value add would be to then allow user to set a none default of VFR or Mixed, but only if this Is annunciated or even better togglable on the NOTAM page itself
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glidermike
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+xGreat suggestion. I must say this has caught me out before. I agree. I would go a little further and suggest that the settings used should be stated in an appropriate place - e.g. the NOTAM pages of the briefing pack.
Actually going a little further still, please present all user settings somewhere - either a page in the briefing pack, or in a relevant place (e..g for MSA and obstacle clearance - on the bottom of the PLOG).
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rg
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And if you have IFR features enabled it should be a clue you want to see IFR notams.
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robinbalen
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Great suggestion. I must say this has caught me out before.
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