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TouchTheSky - 5/9/2020 12:32:38 PM
techie59 - 5/9/2020 11:47:53 AM
TouchTheSky - 5/9/2020 10:18:33 AM
TouchTheSky - 4/29/2020 7:47:07 PM
techie59 - 4/28/2020 3:35:24 PM
b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



Etienne, It is my understanding that you don't need to change the default IP address (192.168.10.1) if you plan to continue using GDL90 with SkyDemon - it will continue displaying FLARM targets. Changing the IP to 192.168.1.1 simply indicates to SkyDemon that the FLARM NMEA protocol is used instead.

Etienne, just a minor clarification to my reply above, the options are:
  • 192.168.10.1: only GDL90 can be selected and used in SkyDemon
  • 192.168.1.1: both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA can be selected and used in SkyDemon
GDL90 is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "GDL90 Compatible Device"
FLARM-NMEA is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "FLARM with Air Connect", the "Air Connect Key" can be ignored for Stratux Europe

Thanks for the clarification but it now raises a small doubt.I understand the difference between the 2 IP address but which one should be used to have both the ADB-S in and the FLARM at the same time?

Thanks,

Both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA are protocols that carry both types of traffic (ADS-B and FLARM) at the same time. Therefore you will always receive all traffic no matter which one of the two IPs you select. The IP selection only has a consequence on which protocol you are able to use in SkyDemon. GDL90 seems to be the more sophisticated one but FLARM-NMEA has also some benefits (e.g. how bearingless targets are displayed).

OK great now I get it. :-)

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techie59 - 5/9/2020 11:47:53 AM
TouchTheSky - 5/9/2020 10:18:33 AM
TouchTheSky - 4/29/2020 7:47:07 PM
techie59 - 4/28/2020 3:35:24 PM
b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



Etienne, It is my understanding that you don't need to change the default IP address (192.168.10.1) if you plan to continue using GDL90 with SkyDemon - it will continue displaying FLARM targets. Changing the IP to 192.168.1.1 simply indicates to SkyDemon that the FLARM NMEA protocol is used instead.

Etienne, just a minor clarification to my reply above, the options are:
  • 192.168.10.1: only GDL90 can be selected and used in SkyDemon
  • 192.168.1.1: both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA can be selected and used in SkyDemon
GDL90 is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "GDL90 Compatible Device"
FLARM-NMEA is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "FLARM with Air Connect", the "Air Connect Key" can be ignored for Stratux Europe

Thanks for the clarification but it now raises a small doubt.I understand the difference between the 2 IP address but which one should be used to have both the ADB-S in and the FLARM at the same time?

Thanks,

Both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA are protocols that carry both types of traffic (ADS-B and FLARM) at the same time. Therefore you will always receive all traffic no matter which one of the two IPs you select. The IP selection only has a consequence on which protocol you are able to use in SkyDemon. GDL90 seems to be the more sophisticated one but FLARM-NMEA has also some benefits (e.g. how bearingless targets are displayed).

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TouchTheSky - 5/9/2020 10:18:33 AM
TouchTheSky - 4/29/2020 7:47:07 PM
techie59 - 4/28/2020 3:35:24 PM
b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



Etienne, It is my understanding that you don't need to change the default IP address (192.168.10.1) if you plan to continue using GDL90 with SkyDemon - it will continue displaying FLARM targets. Changing the IP to 192.168.1.1 simply indicates to SkyDemon that the FLARM NMEA protocol is used instead.

Etienne, just a minor clarification to my reply above, the options are:
  • 192.168.10.1: only GDL90 can be selected and used in SkyDemon
  • 192.168.1.1: both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA can be selected and used in SkyDemon
GDL90 is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "GDL90 Compatible Device"
FLARM-NMEA is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "FLARM with Air Connect", the "Air Connect Key" can be ignored for Stratux Europe

Thanks for the clarification but it now raises a small doubt.I understand the difference between the 2 IP address but which one should be used to have both the ADB-S in and the FLARM at the same time?

Thanks,

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TouchTheSky - 4/29/2020 7:47:07 PM
techie59 - 4/28/2020 3:35:24 PM
b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



Etienne, It is my understanding that you don't need to change the default IP address (192.168.10.1) if you plan to continue using GDL90 with SkyDemon - it will continue displaying FLARM targets. Changing the IP to 192.168.1.1 simply indicates to SkyDemon that the FLARM NMEA protocol is used instead.

Etienne, just a minor clarification to my reply above, the options are:
  • 192.168.10.1: only GDL90 can be selected and used in SkyDemon
  • 192.168.1.1: both GDL90 and FLARM-NMEA can be selected and used in SkyDemon
GDL90 is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "GDL90 Compatible Device"
FLARM-NMEA is labeled under Third-Party Devices as "FLARM with Air Connect", the "Air Connect Key" can be ignored for Stratux Europe

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techie59 - 4/28/2020 3:35:24 PM
b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



Etienne, It is my understanding that you don't need to change the default IP address (192.168.10.1) if you plan to continue using GDL90 with SkyDemon - it will continue displaying FLARM targets. Changing the IP to 192.168.1.1 simply indicates to SkyDemon that the FLARM NMEA protocol is used instead.

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b3nn0 - 7/19/2019 3:47:58 PM
This is most likely what your settings should look like for SD:
(If you want to use the Flarm-NMEA protocol, the IP Address additionally needs to be 192.168.1.1, but that's optional. Get the rest working first).
Disable AHRS if you don't have one in your Stratux.
If you have an ADS-B out equipped airplane, enter your transponders HEX in the top right.

To get the Flarm-NMEA option in SkyDemon, you, of course, need to enable that in the Settings "FLARM via Air Connect". But as I said, that's optional.

Yes, I recommend using an 868Mhz antenna instead of the 978. Reception range will be better.

First, thanks a lot for all this wonederful work.

I have updated the ROM with this EU version. Do I need to update the IP Address even though I will use it with the GDL90 protocol in SKydemon? Even though it is in that mode, will it gather the FLARM information?

Why changing the IP address makes a difference (for my understanding)?

REgards,

Etienne (who can't wait to fly again)



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Alf - 7/22/2019 5:14:21 AM
Hi b3nno,

I had several flights last weekend with Stratux Europe Edition 1.5b2-eu008 BETA, 868 antenna for FLARM, SD as software. I am really impressed, it works fantastic! Thank you for all your work on this!

BR,
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Hi everybody!

I purchased a Stratux box (currently image stratux-v1.5b2-eu010). Do I need to purchase this "FLARM Decoding Subscription" in order to get FLARM traffic displayed by Skydemon?

https://www.skydemon.aero/store/flarmdecoding.aspx

Thanks!

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I use SkyEcho2 on a frequent basis and it also shows the drop outs with SD (running on iPad). Stratux is definitely worse, but in principle both shown the same issue with Skydemon (and btw i.e. ForeFlight does not suffer with the same setup).
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Hi Tim,

I use SkyEcho 2 (mainly) and Stratux for testing purposes with the same Android devices. I could observe the mentioned drop outs also with SkyEcho 2, but only on older devices. I use an older Samsung Note 4 in the Front Cockpit and a new Xiaomi Mi Max 3 in the rear Cockpit. The Xiaomi had no drop outs with SkyEcho 2 and SD, but the Samsung any few seconds, which was very annoying.

When using Stratux, the drop outs were worse, and could even be observed on the new Xiaomi. This improved after the latest Stratux files from b3nn0.

Hope that helps,
Best regards,
Alf
Edited 7/25/2019 2:23:19 PM by Alf
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I don't suppose either of you have a SkyEcho or SkyEcho 2 product around? Those are very popular, use GDL90 and we have never observed any problems with them. Then again, they are not built on top of a Raspberry PI, I don't know if that makes a different to the networking stack.
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