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SD on iPad, PowerFLARM - Connection problems


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Hi Aslak,

I'm not sure if it's just my set-up but if I have PowerFlarm Core talking to SD on my iPad and have noticed that if I have the Air Connect device also logged onto my iPhone (which is in my coat pocket) I seem to get issues.  The answer was to go into settings on my iPhone and delete the SSID for the Air Connect device (I.e.: 'Forget This Network') so that it couldn't automatically connect.

It seems that the Air Connect device only seems to like 'talking' to one device at a time and giving it its whole hearted attention!!

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Hi!

I am new to both this forum and powerflarm. Hope its ok that i put my qustion here.

Using SkyDemon on iPad mini. Bought Powerflarm Core with Air connect Butterfly.

Used the standard setup in the setup file for the
Powerflarm.

Works well the first half hour of the flight, then i get «reconnecting» and «authentication» all the time.

Sometimes it hjelp restarting SkyDemon. But not allways.

Suggestions?

Aslak.
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What is the exact errormessage you get?



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ken@blackman.co.uk - 12/8/2018 12:15:20 PM
Grila - 8/25/2018 6:23:30 PM
Hi all,

Just in case this helps; I’ve just re-visited this thread again and would like to add that despite me fully understanding the PF -SD connection foibles and having written some comprehensive notes on connecting them earlier in this thread, I should add that I’m currently on my 3rd Air Connect wi-fi device!!!

I’ve had PF for about 6 years now and whenever I get to the stage that no matter what I do, it just doesn’t seem to connect to SD, I go to LK Avionics and purchase a new Air Connect device and all is immediately well again. They’re not cheap and the dud one is invariably out of warranty but the new one always connects and works seemlessly ....... for however long!

I did send an email to Butterfly (or whoever it is that makes these devices now) and had a moan to them. Maybe the newer ones are a bit more robust? I guess what I’m trying to say is that it might not be a SD problem but an Air Connect hardware issue.


Hi Grila

I was just wondering if you have had answer from the Butterfly/Airconnect manufacterer regarding the problem with connecting to SD?

I am getting the same problem as reported by several people here that I can establish a wifi connection between the Butterfly/Airconnect and SD but then it drops after 20 mins or so.

Thanks


Hi Ken,

Sorry for the late reply but I only look at the forum now and again!! 

In a word: no, I didn't get any response from Butterfly/Airconnect.  No surprise there then......Sad

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Grila - 8/25/2018 6:23:30 PM
Hi all,

Just in case this helps; I’ve just re-visited this thread again and would like to add that despite me fully understanding the PF -SD connection foibles and having written some comprehensive notes on connecting them earlier in this thread, I should add that I’m currently on my 3rd Air Connect wi-fi device!!!

I’ve had PF for about 6 years now and whenever I get to the stage that no matter what I do, it just doesn’t seem to connect to SD, I go to LK Avionics and purchase a new Air Connect device and all is immediately well again. They’re not cheap and the dud one is invariably out of warranty but the new one always connects and works seemlessly ....... for however long!

I did send an email to Butterfly (or whoever it is that makes these devices now) and had a moan to them. Maybe the newer ones are a bit more robust? I guess what I’m trying to say is that it might not be a SD problem but an Air Connect hardware issue.


Hi Grila

I was just wondering if you have had answer from the Butterfly/Airconnect manufacterer regarding the problem with connecting to SD?

I am getting the same problem as reported by several people here that I can establish a wifi connection between the Butterfly/Airconnect and SD but then it drops after 20 mins or so.

Thanks

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Hi all,

Just in case this helps; I’ve just re-visited this thread again and would like to add that despite me fully understanding the PF -SD connection foibles and having written some comprehensive notes on connecting them earlier in this thread, I should add that I’m currently on my 3rd Air Connect wi-fi device!!!

I’ve had PF for about 6 years now and whenever I get to the stage that no matter what I do, it just doesn’t seem to connect to SD, I go to LK Avionics and purchase a new Air Connect device and all is immediately well again. They’re not cheap and the dud one is invariably out of warranty but the new one always connects and works seemlessly ....... for however long!

I did send an email to Butterfly (or whoever it is that makes these devices now) and had a moan to them. Maybe the newer ones are a bit more robust? I guess what I’m trying to say is that it might not be a SD problem but an Air Connect hardware issue.
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That sucks. I can at least confirm that people using alternative devices (other than FLARM) don't seem to suffer these connection problems.
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Tim Dawson - 6/25/2018 9:21:30 AM
When you say the WIFI connection is lost, are you referring to the situation outside SkyDemon where your device becomes entirely disconnected from the WIFI hotspot created by the Air Connect device?


Hi Tim,
I must check this. The only fact at the moment is, that I have changed the Air Connect device several times without any success and I have the same behavior od SD on my other device (not a HUAWAI). During flight I get an error message that the connection was lost. Then I must close SD, interrupt the WIFI connection, restart it and after a restart of SD it is possible to use FLARM as source of GPS and traffic infos. This happens between 1 and 3 times a hour.

kr

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When you say the WIFI connection is lost, are you referring to the situation outside SkyDemon where your device becomes entirely disconnected from the WIFI hotspot created by the Air Connect device?
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Tim Dawson - 6/21/2018 2:39:01 PM
We could re-engineer our FLARM connectivity code as you suggest, but we wouldn't touch it without a very good reason, which would be that many people are suffering a disconnection problem. The problem in this case appears to be self-inflicted as you are purposely closing the lid on your device which suspends all apps and terminates any network connections.

Hi Tim,
I read your answer with great interest because I regain the hope that the connection problems between SD and PF can finally be solved.‌ I do not use an IPad but an Android device (HUAWEI Multimedia Pad 3) and had nearly at every flight the problem with a lost WIFI connection between SD and PF (mostly after around 20 - 30 min flight time). In my case it was not a problem with any flip case or similar, because I do not use that. At the moment I use the local services of the tablet and an external display for the FLARM traffic. I am not alone with this strange behavior between SD and PF, at least 3 other colleagues in my club have the same problems. So please consider this as a functionality of SD with room for improvement.
Kind regards
Europa XS‌‌

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