cct,

your other workaround is as I explained .. instead of simply click on A to "append" do a "right click" with your mouse on A.
This opens the context menu from A, but does not activate leg A-B.

with this you can plan exactly as you want it in one shot, the way of the "clicking" is the factor. straight click as normal reactivates the first leg, hence you see your problem. 

but as AlanM stated, the best way is to plan all your legs in one large track, then go back and add your "land here"s - you are also then able to check takeoff time and validate fuel consumption. With this you single legs are not just simple separate routes, but also full individual flight plans , witch you might also want to individually submit.

there is no way in Print Centre to currently print either all legs at once or switch between legs ... but its definitely a requirement.
right now you need to leave Print Centre, activate the next leg and go again to Print Centre, and so on.

But in general multi-leg planning is absolutely great

Cheers
MjK 

Thanks Tim - I guessed that would be the case. I shall play with the multi-leg scenario - a good move

Chris

Hi folks,
I have asked for multi-leg routes several times over the last 4 years.
Now with version 3.1 the SD team have come up with the goods. Superb. Very very useful flying a Skyranger with only minimum fuel with 2 guys in!
It works every time. Plan route from A to E then go back to the other airfields you wish to land at, drag route to them and click on 'Land Here'.
DO NOT try and stitch together plans from A to B then B to C etc. That does not work and why should it. The SD team has produced what was asked of them, to be able to plan a flight that has to be more than one takeoff and landing.

AlanM

Hi,

i can replicate what you did - you actually clicked on A again as it is indicated in the text highlighted when you clicked C
please validate .. do NOT click A with you normal mouse click, but with the right mouse click (two fingers on the mousepad), so the menu on A opens up. as you do this and select "append to route" all is well.

the reason is simple that you activate leg A to be being active and not leg B to C by clicking on A again.

here is what I exactly did to replicate this on SD v3.1.0.0 on Win8.1

click on first airport A and "start new route"
click second airport B and "append to route"
click third airport C and "append to route"
click second airport B and select "land here"

with this all three airports get the orange circle with the yellow dot and to be a takeoff or landing location
at that moment also the first route from A to B is active, showed by the dark magenta line.
if you now click on A again to select "append to route" it happens as you describe, and a route back from B to A is added (works actually as expected and designed).
if you, as you wrote, select the second route B to C as active by eiter clicking on the leg or on B or C (dark magenta line switches from A to B over to B to C) and then click on A simply leg A to B becomes active again. if you now select "append here" again it is exactly as you describe

if you instead of a standard click on A do a "right click" on A, so the contextual menu opens straight away, you can select "append to route" and all is as you would have expected and a new leg B over C to A is created, as B is "Land here" - C is a switched back to waypoint, as the route does not end here anymore and A becomes now also a "land here" mark

it is also reflected in the virtual radar and A to B are an own leg, as well as B over C to A is the other.

Please validate.

@Tim - not sure how you really could fix this, as you may want to continue to make the "clicked" waypoint "active" and with it the existing leg. The only way I can currently see this could be made smother, is to change the current instructional text from "Now click another waypoint to extend your route from here." to "Now right click another waypoint to extend your route from here.".
Potentially you could extend the dialog of the "clicked" waypoint if a "land here" mark was set during planing and add the question when you append the waypoint a second time "where to append", but tat could be quite some work.

P.S> the print center question is very valid and a) print center needs a better highlighting witch leg you are currently printing as well as either a selection box, where you can select witch legs to print or at least to jump between the legs (little mockup attached)

Hope this helps
Markus

Thanks cct, that's exactly what we needed. If we can see the problem for ourselves, we can fix it; and we have.

Sorry, let me expand the problem.

Start a new route from A to B then C. Right click B - Land here. Then click on C, and as prompted click on A to extend the route there. However instead of creating a new leg from C to A it creates a leg from B to A.

Workaround is delay selection of 'Land here' until after all legs created, but on the route I was planning, they were all a way away, hence easier to do that first. It then confused me.

BTW is there a way to move from one to another sub-route in the Print Centre?

Tim,

Please don't give me grief for being honest.  Surely honest opinions count when developing further this excellent SkyDemon product.
I'm NOT being deliberately destructive on this development, I gave my honest opinion of what I found when I attempted to use the facility.
If I'm missing some features of this development, then please point me in the direction where I can learn the correct method to use it to its full potential.
I originally started this request for this feature almost 2 years ago, and my comment above, in my very humble opinion still stands.
The SKyDemon development team are doing a great job, forever supporting requests from the end users, and I'm sure this feature will continue to get better and better.
As an original SkyAngel user, I have seen the concept move from a very basic product, to one of the best on the market, and it will have my full support always, but don't please, publically criticize honest opinion.
 


Regards



Hugh

G-OIBM

Commander 114

Fortunately, lots of other people CAN see the benefits and are being constructive in helping us decide the next enhancements to the feature.

Same thing happened to me exactly as described above.

I can't really see also any benefits to using this version of multi-leg trip planning as it stands; it's nowhere near the Jepp version provided on Jepp VFR

I know that a bunch of folk have worked on this to try and make it work, (well done for that), but I think it needs further tweaks before it can be really a multi leg planning tools.

Sorry folks.

Regards



Hugh

G-OIBM

Commander 114

I can't follow your steps because as you've stated them, they are not possible. If I do a route from A to B I cannot nominated B as "land here" as you suggest because we're already implicitly landing at that airfield. Could you list some precise steps to reproduce what you're seeing please? This will allow us to track down any potential issue.