Hi,

Would it be possible to include the German AIP of the aerodrome details in the plate selection? To my knowledge it is the only possibility to scroll through the entire document to go to the information instead of having the respective page available with the plates.
Unless not all the information included in this very AIP part is included on the info page (such as fuel available, hours of operation, it is very annoying to find the information.

Kind regards,
Manos

Sorry, I do not understand the question. I believe we publish all documents given to us by DFS.

Hi!

Ok, now I understand what you mean. The document you mention is the only one provided by DFS. Can you share a screenshot of some other product which cuts out the relevant information and presents it on its own? We can then ask DFS the appropriate questions.

Hey,

You asked for an alternative presentation of the aerodrome contact details, then I explained that we show the document as received from DFS. You then mentioned that another product displays it different, so I asked to see an example so that I might fully understand what you're saying, and show it to DFS if necessary.

Regarding EDFH, the AIP definition for this airspace in ENR 2.1 simply says "Langen Radar" with no frequency. I can find no reference to a 125.6 in either ENR 2.1 or the AD EDFH entry. At present we simply have the frequency encoded as "Langen Radar" so SkyDemon attempts to look up a frequency with that callsign elsewhere, and ends up finding the FIS frequency. I agree this is not very good, but it's primarily because the AIP is very unclear by not actually giving a frequency or another page in the AIP from which to obtain one. EDDF is a similar issue except that in its AD page, there ARE entries for Langen Radar, only there is more than one entry. Again, the AIP is unclear.

The AIP entry for EDDF does not mention any frequency labelled as "north". We typically include only the primary frequency for a TWR station, for simplicity. Otherwise we would be displaying a list of frequencies to the user with no additional information as to which to choose, because the AIP simply doens't provide that information.

Frankfurt Arrival is 118.500 and this is correct in our data.

This forum will be receiving an upgrade in due course.

Hi Tim,

Sorry, it simply isn't straightforward for us to pick every airport's details out of the big document and manually transcribe them when they're updated so often. If DFS ever breaks the document up into easier-to-read sections that would in turn make it easier for us.

Unfortunately the EDDF Arrival frequency IS 118.500 according to the AIP entry, which is the official location of that data. If another frequency is in use then you need to ask DFS to update the official AIP entry. I hope you understand why we cannot make our data differ from the official data just because a helpful user tells us the frequency is wrong. If the frequency is corrected in the AIP then everybody will benefit!

I agree that it is not posssilble to separate and change the information by hand updated every 4 weeks by DFS. Other programs like Flight Planner (Ifos GmbH) have a separate textual information and update it every 4 weeks.

Could you ask DFS why this is not possible to get from them? It would be a great help for the users.

We are given a file with text like this in, does it help?





Aachen-Merzbrück EDKA
Verkehrslandeplatz / Public Airfield
5.2 NM NE Aachen, Flugplatz Aachen-Merzbrück GmbH, Betriebsbüro, 52146 Würselen/Merzbrück
% (02405) 73597, Fax 73390
www.flugplatz-aachen.de
e-mail: betriebsleitung@flugplatz-aachen.de
NfL I-16/96, I-101/96, I-202/01; NfL I-256/96, I-203/01
ACFT 3000 kg, HEL 5700 kg, GLD (P), GLD,
UL (dreiachsgesteuert / triple-axled),
Luftschiffe / airships PPR, Ballon PPR
TIME SUM 0700–1830/SS+30, O/T PPR;
WIN 0800–SS+30, O/T PPR
Einschränkungen siehe AD 1–6. /
Restrictions see AD 1–6.
Die Sonderregelung für die Übermittlung von Flugplänen ist zu beachten (ENR 1–35). / The special regulation for filing flight plans has to be observed (ENR 1–35).
OPS % (02405) 4528964, 73597, Fax 73390
ACC EDGG % (06103) 707 6600/6601
MET % (0900) 10 77 22 3
CUST PPR H24, % (02405) 73597, 72587
FUEL 100 LL, Jet A1
OIL 80, 100, AD 80, AD 100, MG 15W50
REP Westflug Aachen,
Flugplatz Merzbrück, 52146 Würselen
e-mail: info@westflug.de
% (02405) 48510, Fax 485157,
EASA DE 145.0113
HANG beschränkt / limited
HOTEL Am Flugplatz % (02405) 474766
Verkehrsverein Aachen % (0241) 1802950
RST % (02405) 474766, Fax 474768,
% (02405) 425358

AALEN-HEIDENHEIM/ELCHINGEN EDPA
Verkehrslandeplatz / Public Airfield
7.6 NM SE Aalen, Luftsportring Aalen e.V., Flugplatz
73450 Neresheim-Elchingen
% (07367) 7122
NfL I-358/78, I-70/84, I-250/94; NfL I-115/79, I-71/84
ACFT 10000 kg, HEL 10000 kg, GLD (P), GLD, UL
Trainingsflüge / trainingflights Sat/Sun/HOL
PPR % (07367) 7122
Gleichzeitiger Betrieb auf der RWY 09L/27R und RWY 09R/27L ist nicht zulässig. / Simultaneous operations on RWY 09L/27R and RWY 09R/27L are not permitted.
TIME SUM 0600–SS/1900, O/T PPR;
WIN 1 NOV–14 MAR SR–30–SS+30 PPR
bis / until 31 OCT, ab / from 15 MAR
0700–SS/2000, O/T PPR
OPS % (07367) 7122, Fax 4754;
PPR % (07367) 7122, 7683,
(0173) 9641703, (0171) 5236417
ACC EDGG % (06103) 707 6200
MET % (0900) 1 0 77 22 7
CUST % (07367) 7122
O/R 2 HR, nur für Reisende ohne Handelsware /
for passengers without merchandise only
FUEL 100 LL, Jet A1, Super Plus, Diesel
OIL 100; 80, 100 legiert / blended
REP Kiener-Flug, Ing. Rüdiger Kiener KG,
% (07367) 96560, Fax 965622,
LBA-Nr. II-A 107
HANG beschränkt / limited PPR
HOTEL % (07367) 78 68
RST EXC Mon