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Autopilot + COM freq. over BT to RS232


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Hi all, there has been a lot of discussions about this, but never resulted in any way.
Is it possible, somehow, to get out from SkyDemon over bluetooth to RS232 converter some data?
From my current Aera 760 i have over serial port connected autopilot and Trig radio so Aera can feed AP with planned track and when i click on airfields com freq it sets stand by freq. But, it is Garmin and their weird navigation point stupid names, airfields without names and so on...

This will be nice to have on SkyDemon, are there some possibilities?
Vitek

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Michael Hoffmann - 11/16/2024 6:03:54 PM
Thanks to Tim there is now an Android beta with support of the Becker AR6201 protocol.

Here is my solution to connect a BLE device to the Becker AR6201 radio:




Bill of material:

DSD TECH HM-10 Bluetooth 4.0 BLE iBeacon UART Modul mit 4 PIN Base Board für Arduino UNO R3 Mega 2560 Nano

RS422 MAX490 Mutual Transfer Full-duplex TTL Bi-directional Signal Module DC 5V

AMS1117 DC-DC Step Down Voltage Converter 6V - 12V to 5V

Minifuse 125 mA

My BLE to AR620x housing
Please contact me for STL-files, if needed.

The schematic of the circuit is attached.

Please note this is only for 12 V bus voltage,
and ONLY for experimental use!!!

Cheers!

I have the next AR620x adapter ready. It looks like this is becoming a business model for some people...
But you can make the adapter yourself as described above.
If you don't know much about electronics, soldering and 3D printing, I'll do it for you. No large quantities, just one handmade piece at a time. The adapter fits directly onto the free connection of your Becker AR620x. All that is required is a power connection (+12 V, GND) - no further mechanical work.
I guess 70-90 bugs is enough for one unit.
 


Please note: THIS IS 12 V EXPERIMEMTAL ONLY!
... but will work like a charme...

Cheers!

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Michael Hoffmann - 12/15/2024 7:38:39 PM
Michael Hoffmann - 11/16/2024 6:03:54 PM
Thanks to Tim there is now an Android beta with support of the Becker AR6201 protocol.

Here is my solution to connect a BLE device to the Becker AR6201 radio:




Bill of material:

DSD TECH HM-10 Bluetooth 4.0 BLE iBeacon UART Modul mit 4 PIN Base Board für Arduino UNO R3 Mega 2560 Nano

RS422 MAX490 Mutual Transfer Full-duplex TTL Bi-directional Signal Module DC 5V

AMS1117 DC-DC Step Down Voltage Converter 6V - 12V to 5V

Minifuse 125 mA

My BLE to AR620x housing
Please contact me for STL-files, if needed.

The schematic of the circuit is attached.

Please note this is only for 12 V bus voltage,
and ONLY for experimental use!!!

Cheers!

I have the next AR620x adapter ready. It looks like this is becoming a business model for some people...
But you can make the adapter yourself as described above.
If you don't know much about electronics, soldering and 3D printing, I'll do it for you. No large quantities, just one handmade piece at a time. The adapter fits directly onto the free connection of your Becker AR620x. All that is required is a power connection (+12 V, GND) - no further mechanical work.
I guess 70-90 bugs is enough for one unit.
 


Please note: THIS IS 12 V EXPERIMEMTAL ONLY!
... but will work like a charme...

Cheers!


Michael, this looks like a perfect solution! Great! You fixed the connector with the slider - could you please share the source for this slider?
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ALSL-Flyer - 12/15/2024 8:50:32 PM
Michael Hoffmann - 12/15/2024 7:38:39 PM
Michael Hoffmann - 11/16/2024 6:03:54 PM
Thanks to Tim there is now an Android beta with support of the Becker AR6201 protocol.

Here is my solution to connect a BLE device to the Becker AR6201 radio:




Bill of material:

DSD TECH HM-10 Bluetooth 4.0 BLE iBeacon UART Modul mit 4 PIN Base Board für Arduino UNO R3 Mega 2560 Nano

RS422 MAX490 Mutual Transfer Full-duplex TTL Bi-directional Signal Module DC 5V

AMS1117 DC-DC Step Down Voltage Converter 6V - 12V to 5V

Minifuse 125 mA

My BLE to AR620x housing
Please contact me for STL-files, if needed.

The schematic of the circuit is attached.

Please note this is only for 12 V bus voltage,
and ONLY for experimental use!!!

Cheers!

I have the next AR620x adapter ready. It looks like this is becoming a business model for some people...
But you can make the adapter yourself as described above.
If you don't know much about electronics, soldering and 3D printing, I'll do it for you. No large quantities, just one handmade piece at a time. The adapter fits directly onto the free connection of your Becker AR620x. All that is required is a power connection (+12 V, GND) - no further mechanical work.
I guess 70-90 bugs is enough for one unit.
 


Please note: THIS IS 12 V EXPERIMEMTAL ONLY!
... but will work like a charme...

Cheers!


Michael, this looks like a perfect solution! Great! You fixed the connector with the slider - could you please share the source for this slider?

Amphenol Conec 165X11299XE
You will need the slider, the spring and 4 of 6 screws.

https://www.digikey.de/de/products/detail/amphenol-conec/165X11299XE/1017451?srsltid=AfmBOoqFji0EENN9MVwPm7CfNOq5eAT4pUIFHrqCrk8X-L_AZz48RMad
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Michael Hoffmann - 12/15/2024 9:16:39 PM
ALSL-Flyer - 12/15/2024 8:50:32 PM
Michael Hoffmann - 12/15/2024 7:38:39 PM
Michael Hoffmann - 11/16/2024 6:03:54 PM
Thanks to Tim there is now an Android beta with support of the Becker AR6201 protocol.

Here is my solution to connect a BLE device to the Becker AR6201 radio:




Bill of material:

DSD TECH HM-10 Bluetooth 4.0 BLE iBeacon UART Modul mit 4 PIN Base Board für Arduino UNO R3 Mega 2560 Nano

RS422 MAX490 Mutual Transfer Full-duplex TTL Bi-directional Signal Module DC 5V

AMS1117 DC-DC Step Down Voltage Converter 6V - 12V to 5V

Minifuse 125 mA

My BLE to AR620x housing
Please contact me for STL-files, if needed.

The schematic of the circuit is attached.

Please note this is only for 12 V bus voltage,
and ONLY for experimental use!!!

Cheers!

I have the next AR620x adapter ready. It looks like this is becoming a business model for some people...
But you can make the adapter yourself as described above.
If you don't know much about electronics, soldering and 3D printing, I'll do it for you. No large quantities, just one handmade piece at a time. The adapter fits directly onto the free connection of your Becker AR620x. All that is required is a power connection (+12 V, GND) - no further mechanical work.
I guess 70-90 bugs is enough for one unit.
 


Please note: THIS IS 12 V EXPERIMEMTAL ONLY!
... but will work like a charme...

Cheers!


Michael, this looks like a perfect solution! Great! You fixed the connector with the slider - could you please share the source for this slider?

Amphenol Conec 165X11299XE
You will need the slider, the spring and 4 of 6 screws.

https://www.digikey.de/de/products/detail/amphenol-conec/165X11299XE/1017451?srsltid=AfmBOoqFji0EENN9MVwPm7CfNOq5eAT4pUIFHrqCrk8X-L_AZz48RMad

Michael, thanks a lot, especially that you forwarded the exact type number was extremely helpful. At "Voelkner" we get the housing for less than 5€. Great!!

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                                 I have an uncertified engine and the uncertfied Version of the Garmin...
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                             Amphenol Conec165X11299XE You will need the slider, the spring and 4...
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                                 Michael, thanks a lot, especially that you forwarded the exact type...
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