Error on French charts

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Error on French charts

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pgroell	pgroell posted 3/25/2024 10:13:33 AM Topic Details Share Topic
Group: Forum Members Posts: 94, Visits: 16K	Hello, I think there might be an error on the airspace depiction on the french charts. Above FL 115 all airspace is class D except over the Alps, Pyrennées or high sea where it is class E Over the Pyrennées, the general class D overlaps the general class E. I think the borders of the general class D are wrong. For example on the picture, the class D should stop at the northern border of the class E France General LTA. (There are at least three aeras over the Pyrennées where this happens. The France General LTA is split up over the Pyrennées due to Airways, which should be shown as class D airspace. Hope this makes sense ! I found no errors over the Alps Pascal
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 3/25/2024 10:22:51 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	We can look into this, but I think I'm missing from your post exactly where you believe the problem lies. Is it the Pyrenees that you think is the problematic area, and you think we've not transcribed the LTA areas from the AIP correctly?
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pgroell	pgroell posted 3/25/2024 10:52:46 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 94, Visits: 16K	+x Tim Dawson - 3/25/2024 10:22:51 AM We can look into this, but I think I'm missing from your post exactly where you believe the problem lies. Is it the Pyrenees that you think is the problematic area, and you think we've not transcribed the LTA areas from the AIP correctly? At the same place you should not have both a General Class D and the France LTA which is class E as shown in the first picture. Airspace is either one class or the other but here Skydemon shows it to be both? I think the southern border of the General Class D is wrong it should stop at the northern border of the France LTA (which seems correct to me). The General Class D straight line from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean north of the Pyrennées looks wrong to me, either it goes to the spanish border or as I think is correct it stops at the LTA like in the Alps.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 3/26/2024 10:35:04 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	Thanks, we will look into it. It's not impossible that the AIP defines bits of class D and E that end up covering the same area; it will tend to just have text next to it that says the D takes precedence. But we will check.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 3/27/2024 10:24:55 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	My colleague confirms that we have identified an area over the Pyrenees that needed correction. We have made that correction and you'll see it in our next chart update. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
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pgroell	pgroell posted 3/27/2024 2:22:10 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 94, Visits: 16K	+x Tim Dawson - 3/27/2024 10:24:55 AM My colleague confirms that we have identified an area over the Pyrenees that needed correction. We have made that correction and you'll see it in our next chart update. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Great, thanks
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