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SkyDemon and SkyEcho 2


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Terence Scotcher
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I currently use SD on an iPad with an external Bluetooth GPS device (Garmin GLO).
If I buy a SkyEcho 2 can I use that for GPS position data instead?
That would mean one fewer devices to cope with.

Under 'Setup/Thrid-Party Devices' SD says do not connect the SkyEcho 2 if you are using a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
I wonder why that is; I understand the SkyEcho connects with WiFi rather than BT, but I don't see why that would be a problem.

Terry

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TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

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Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


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TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this. My question was more towards: Does it have the same functionality as SkyEcho 2 with the FEB 2019 Firmware, ADS-B in/out, Flarm AND Mode S/C bearingless reception?
Cheers,
Alf

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Alf - 6/5/2019 8:07:36 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this. My question was more towards: Does it have the same functionality as SkyEcho 2 with the FEB 2019 Firmware, ADS-B in/out, Flarm AND Mode S/C bearingless reception?
Cheers,
Alf

Stratux Europe Edition is only an "in" device, meaning ADS-B in and FLARM in. In addition Mode C/S targets are also received and displayed on the "Radar" page but not forwarded to the connected EFB.



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TouchTheSky - 6/6/2019 4:52:35 AM
Alf - 6/5/2019 8:07:36 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this. My question was more towards: Does it have the same functionality as SkyEcho 2 with the FEB 2019 Firmware, ADS-B in/out, Flarm AND Mode S/C bearingless reception?
Cheers,
Alf

Stratux Europe Edition is only an "in" device, meaning ADS-B in and FLARM in. In addition Mode C/S targets are also received and displayed on the "Radar" page but not forwarded to the connected EFB.



Understood, thank you!

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Alf - 6/5/2019 8:07:36 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this. My question was more towards: Does it have the same functionality as SkyEcho 2 with the FEB 2019 Firmware, ADS-B in/out, Flarm AND Mode S/C bearingless reception?
Cheers,
Alf

Sky Echo 2 does NOT have the ability to show bearingless targets. They scrapped that trial feature.
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tmmtaha75 - 9/21/2019 10:59:08 AM
Alf - 6/5/2019 8:07:36 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
Alf - 6/5/2019 7:53:09 PM
TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 6:32:29 PM
tnowak - 6/5/2019 8:04:40 AM
Hi Alf,

I also fly a vintage aircraft with no electrical system.
However I do have a Trig TT21 transponder with ADS-B out connection, Trig TY91 8.33 VHF radio and also a Horis 80 AHRS.
I power this equipment using a 12V 5.2AH Li-Ion battery which lasts at least 8 flying hours between re-charges.

So it is possible to be equipped with a transponders etc. without a full aircraft electrical system.

I am still undecided which way to go with having an electronic conspicuity receiver capability.
I like the SE2 but it can only detect ADS-B and FLARM. Also I would need to disable the SE2 Mode-S transmissions as I have a transponder.
PAW is on the list and will be interesting to see how the new MLAT capability works.
Tony

I think it is worth mentioning here that a Stratux Europe version has now been created:


Thanks for the hint, I have never heard something about Stratux. Sounds interesting. Is there an advantage compared to SkyEcho 2?
Thanks for clarification.
BR

Well, BoM (bill of material) is less than € 150, it receives ADS-B and FLARM and connects to all major EFBs including SD over GDL90 protocol. Several sources offer ready-to-fly versions for € 279 or DIY kits for € 225
Furthermore there are a couple of folks (including myself) that maintain the code and develop it further.


Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this. My question was more towards: Does it have the same functionality as SkyEcho 2 with the FEB 2019 Firmware, ADS-B in/out, Flarm AND Mode S/C bearingless reception?
Cheers,
Alf

Sky Echo 2 does NOT have the ability to show bearingless targets. They scrapped that trial feature.

Not if you stay with firmware from 2/8/2019 Cool

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TouchTheSky - 6/5/2019 8:00:05 PM
                         Thank you for the quick reply. You folks are great, really like this....
Alf - 6/5/2019 8:07:36 PM
                             Stratux Europe Edition is only an "in" device, meaning ADS-B in and...
TouchTheSky - 6/6/2019 4:52:35 AM
                                 Understood, thank you!
Alf - 6/6/2019 5:02:34 AM
                             Sky Echo 2 does NOT have the ability to show bearingless targets. They...
tmmtaha75 - 9/21/2019 10:59:08 AM
                                 Not if you stay with firmware from 2/8/2019 :cool:
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Alf - 6/7/2019 6:52:14 PM
                     Just to be sure, you should download:...
TouchTheSky - 6/7/2019 9:14:11 PM
                         Thanks so much, really appreciate! Have a nice weekend and fantastic...
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                         Cheers TTS!! :)
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