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Austrian Airspace Data @ LOWS *completely* wrong?!


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Daniel_KDF
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Dear Skydemon-Team,

I‌ am not sure if I am missing something here. I thought with the monthly AIRAC cycle updates, Skydemon airspace data could be well trusted. ‌‌
N‌ow I just updated my Windows and Android Austrian charts and even restarted the software, but Skydemon is showing the invalid, old airspace structure.
https://www.austrocontrol.at/jart/prj3/austro_control/data/dokumente/LO_SUP_2017_06_en_2017-07-21_1107812.pdf
The airspaces, which are valid in the area Salzburg with effect from20 JUL 2017 are depicted on page 2 of this AIP SUP. ‌‌‌


C‌ould you please verify and comment? Thank you very much indeed.‌

‌Austrocontrol:

S‌kydemon @ August 7th, 2017:

Edited 8/7/2017 7:37:29 PM by Daniel_KDF
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Hi Guys,
I‌ see also the problem in that case. Maybe AustroControl does not follow the correct procedure, but the published changes of the controlled air space of LOWS are significantly. Not to follow that new airspace structure can end in critical situations and violations of controlled airspace with all its consequences. AND by the way, EasyVFR has already updated their charts!!!
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I just downloaded the latest SD charts Austria, valid from today.
Still the old version!
When does SD intend to solve this unacceptable problem?

Gerhard
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Gerhard66 - 8/17/2017 8:12:37 PM
I just downloaded the latest SD charts Austria, valid from today. Still the old version!When does SD intend to solve this unacceptable problem?Gerhard


I second that - if something is displayed that is clearly not correct and cost you dearly, then it should be amended.
The rather harmless NOTAM hint of changes to the airspace (20-7 until permanent !) is nice for compliance, but still does not allow a proper planning with SD taking these changes into account. And during the flight the old airspace is still "in your face" so to say.

Not on par with the general first class product which SD definitely is !

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It looks like AustroControl lost it's professional competence.
Check the Notam attached:
A limitation to a 5 NM circle somewhere in the mountains makes absolutely no sense. I guess, this Notam was intended to be valid for whole Austria....

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Daniel_KDF - 8/7/2017 7:37:29 PM
Gerhard66 - 8/7/2017 8:48:42 PM
Daniel_KDF - 8/7/2017 9:12:51 PM
Tim Dawson - 8/8/2017 9:03:02 AM
Gerhard66 - 8/8/2017 11:36:28 AM
Daniel_KDF - 8/8/2017 4:23:53 PM
Tim Dawson - 8/10/2017 2:17:22 PM
Daniel_KDF - 8/10/2017 6:15:37 PM
Gerhard66 - 8/10/2017 7:15:28 PM
Europa XS - 8/17/2017 7:48:59 PM
                         I just downloaded the latest SD charts Austria, valid from today....
Gerhard66 - 8/17/2017 8:12:37 PM
                             I second that - if something is displayed that is clearly not correct...
ch.ess - 8/19/2017 12:01:46 PM
                                 It looks like AustroControl lost it's professional competence. Check...
Gerhard66 - 8/19/2017 8:37:50 PM
Tim Dawson - 8/22/2017 11:09:43 AM
Tim Dawson - 8/22/2017 2:43:20 PM
             Thanks ! Much appreciated. Chris
ch.ess - 8/30/2017 7:36:02 PM

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