buchke
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I'm new to Skydemon and mostly I love it but I am surprised at what an insignificant symbol is placed on the map for a gliding site (and/or parachuting). Is there any way to switch on a more significant designator, like the CAA maps have?
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Tim Dawson
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No; the symbology on SkyDemon cannot be changed. The CAA chart has opted for a fictional radius around glider sites whereas we do not show a fictional radius; showing instead a glyph denoting that glider launching takes place. One of the main reasons for this was to try to stop people treating it as an "ATZ" and assuming it's safe outside the fictional line.
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Tony N
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Hi Tim,
I must say I agree with Buchke in that the glyph that SD uses isn't prominent enough and could be easily missed. It may be so that the symbol the CAA use isn't standard but it is does make the location of these sites much more noticeable. There have been recent articles published regarding aircraft overflying gliding sites and para drop zones with the obvious very serious consequences of a mid-air collision or hitting a winch cable, the latter being all but invisible until too late
In the interests of safety can you consider a different, more prominent, type of symbol to mark parachute drop zones and gliding sites? Tony
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buchke
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OK, if you feel it is important that gliding sites are designated as they are, could you perhaps add a user waypoint icon that is larger than those that you have supplied and that look a bit like an ATZ?
Thanks,
Ken
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Tim Dawson
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We feel that the current symbol is fairly prominent, and it has actually been strengthened in recent months. I have attached a screenshot to ensure we are looking at the same thing.
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buchke
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Yes, that's what I'm looking at but it's not as prominent as an ATZ is it?
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Tim Dawson
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Glider sites do not have ATZs. There is no reason why they should have a symbol as prominent as an ATZ; they are not designated airspace.
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Ian
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That big glider picture is a bit of a give-away, surely?
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buchke
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Green on a green background ain't the best. If the CAA saw fit to mark it more prominently I'm surprised it's not even an option on SkyDemon.
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Tim Dawson
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They are not green.
The fact you are even using SkyDemon in the first place implies you believe you can do better than a NATS chart. We believe the same thing, obviously. I posted the screenshot above just to make sure you're looking at the same chart we are; I think the large glider symbol is just as prominent as a circle, with the added benefit of not being a circle, and therefore not leading people to think there is some sort of radius around them (which there isn't).
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T67M
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Glider sites may not have an ATZ, but they are places you're well advised to steer clear of. The glider symbol in SkyDemon is easy to miss - in the image Tim posted, the site at Halesland is hard to see, as is the one at Eyres Field. The only one of the five that really stands out to me is the one at Merryfield. I feel that making the symbol slightly bigger and in black would help a lot.
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buchke
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Thank-you!
Or at least make it an option.
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Tim Dawson
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They're the same symbols at each airfield. At present we are happy with the way they are depicted. That doesn't mean we won't change them in the future, but we will keep an eye on it.
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