timwatson
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I don't understand why including BRG in the Instruments menu causes clutter. Surely users can choose to display it, or not. Am I correct?
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Nigel Bailey
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I've been using SD since it was "Sky Angel" and I've noticed that there is a healthy negativity to some suggestions before it is taken seriously and makes it to the next stage. Think about the support for iPads !! I say "healthy" because when Tim comes back in a negative vein, it prompts more people come out of the woodwork and comment. From this he can gauge whether it is really worth involving expensive time writing or modifying the software to include the new suggestion. I would suggest that if it is not a big undertaking to include the BRG option, why not set it up as an option in the "settings" as many other things are, and let the user decide if he/she wants it or not? P.S. I absolutely love SD for its ease of use and ability to "get it the way you want it" And if it's not in the aircraft when I'm flying, then I'm practicing my circuits!!
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André
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I just want to include my view on this, as I really want an option to include a number which displays actual leg (and next leg's) heading/magnetic track. The Pilot log provides me with all the information I need, but it would be perfect and a LOT better if this would also be presented on the dynamic navigating display in SD. There are (imo) several numbers on the left hand screen that I never use and find a million times less important than the magnetic track. There should be more options for these left hand numbers, and magnetic track should be one of them =)
Ive read in this thread that the way one is supposed to deal with this problem is to turn the aircraft till the extended line from the aircraft is matching the magneta line / next waypoint. But this is very cumbersome! Whats better to be "told" when you are piloting your aircraft: "turn more, turn more, turn a little more, just a little bit more, no too much a little bit back..." or "turn heading 054".. I would yell "jeez, just give me the bearing in numbers!!!" And thats exactly how I feel every time I try to turn to the next leg... Why is using paper (printer Pilot log) much more convenient than looking at the dynamic screen, it should not be that way...
(this is only in regard to this exact problem, I love SD for most of the other things! But I must say this is rather annoying... There is a reason many other navigation companies include the bearing, and it is not just because of history... In my opinion).
EDIT: The magnetic track number pops up when overflying a waypoint where next leg has a different heading. This is very good, but this is the number I would like to see e.g. on the left hand side, in stead of "track T" for instance... Again, for every leg the way it is now, I have to "long press" the next leg and hit leg properties... Not very convenient =)
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Tim Dawson
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We do not show you a number because there is nothing you can do with that number. The number we could show would be true or magnetic track. You can't take that number and match with your compass or DI because it doesn't take wind drift into account. We sometimes know what the wind forecast is, but certainly not what the actual wind is doing. That's why matching up the bug on the rose is a good way of doing it. Or touch the rose to turn it into a correction indicator, which can simply tell you to turn right or left by X degrees.
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timwatson
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There seems to a huge misunderstanding here. What I and others on this thread are requesting is the display of the magnetic bearing to the next waypoint. It is and always has been a feature of every aviation GPS ever made. It is often displayed as 'BRG'. SD does actually already generate this number, but you have to fiddle about to see it.
What users seem to want is BRG to be constantly displayed in large text in the same panel as 'GS', 'DST NXT', 'ETA NXT'. It would be user-selectable from the Instruments menu in the same way as those I've listed above are.
Why is it useful? I'm shocked that SD would say "...there is nothing you can do with that number". Which is why I must assume that there is a misunderstanding.
An obvious example of what you can do with that number is when you need to divert. If I hit some weather and need to divert, I can use the Direct To function to find a nearby airfield but I want a heading and I want it now! With BRG clearly displayed, I can turn the aircraft on to that heading, make a rough correction for wind and even if I deviate from the magenta line for any reason, I ALWAYS know the magnetic bearing to my destination.
Now let's say I overshoot my destination for some reason - as we all know, some airfields are notoriously difficult to see from the air. The magenta line is no help now because I've overshot, but the BRG display constantly tells me where the airfield is!
So in the real world you DO take that number and match it to the aircraft's DI! You are correct - that on its own does not take drift into account, but even a novice pilot knows how to make a mental correction for the estimated wind. And if the range to the diversion is relatively short, it will work out.
SD: In many ways you have a good product but I can see no reason for pride in being the ONLY aviation GPS to not include this most basic and vital feature!
Does that clear up the misunderstanding?
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Tim Dawson
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I think we understand fully  In the situations you describe, is the value you're looking for not shown in the DI at the bottom? Also, at the point where you activate a Direct To which necessitates a significant change of heading, is the value also not momentarily displayed on the screen giving you an instant instruction?
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Bumelbee
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Yes it is, but it's just tiny. In my opinion it is a very important display and for that reason it should be placed at the main bar. it would make skydemon again better and more convenient in use.
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Tim Dawson
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Do you think it's important for a reason you can describe that means it should be on screen all the time? We've heard the feedback on how useful it is to see an immediate bearing if you've just diverted, or if you're changing course significantly. And we will put some thought into solving that problem. We still don't think the presence of a big Bearing instrument on screen all the time is the best solution to that problem, though, as most of the time you don't need the value (which is why it's small at the moment).
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ckurz7000
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I have never missed a permanent bearing display. I like the clean and uncluttered interface SD offers and am therefore more in favor to leave it as is. Between the map with my route and track clearly displayed and the HSI instrument I have never missed a permanent bearing display.
-- Chris.
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srayne
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I personally don't have a need for a bearing display, but could be a compromise for those who do, which would be to have the TRK instrument alternate between BRG(T)/BRG(M)/TRK(T)/TRK(M) when it is tapped in a similar way to the ETE(next)/ETE(end)/ETA(next)/ETA(end) instrument. This would not produce any on-screen additional clutter and remove the need for the TRUE/MAGNETIC track setup option?
Simon
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