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France Airways Class E


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richmond
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I may have miss understood but it is worth pointing out that the Class E airways are for use by VFR traffic and can be used 'VFR on top' provided the destination airfield is clear at the time of take off. These airways are shown on the SIA 1:100000 charts. So they are very relevant for VFR use. All this info is in the SIA 'Documents VFR' chart and info pack.
JulianScarfe
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OK, thanks for that. I know it's fiddly, but I reckon you should either show all class E airspace (in a particular FIR) or none. Otherwise, you mislead the viewer into thinking the airspace that adjoins the class E is class G. The class D is probably less on an issue, as you say, because of the level.

I think the main thing is to document the convention you're using in some way that the user can be aware that there may be class E that is not shown.
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Hello Julian,

Thank you for the feedback. We don't include blocks of class E airspace that are airways in our VFR chart, but we should definitely be displaying the Class D portions. This was an oversight on our part. We've just published a new France chart which does include the class D parts of the airways above FL115. It's rather a mess, but I don't imagine anyone would be using the VFR chart above FL115 since presumably they'd be flying on the airways.
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I may be misunderstanding something but I think the airspace data associated with French airways is missing.

French airways are defined as class E from base to FL115, class D above. Width 5 nm each side of centreline. See LF ENR 3.0 para 1.3.

Without it there are oddities in the TMA airspace data. For example the little triangular fillet of Paris TMA between DPE and VEULE is actually the filler between M605, L612 and R50. In fact, all the airspace in the area is class E with base FL65, and the triangular area is the only bit not within 5 nm of an airway c/l.

HTH

Julian
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