Missing Germany AIP data, where to find?

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Missing Germany AIP data, where to find?

Missing Germany AIP data, where to find?

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moefly	m moefly posted 4/27/2024 6:10:18 PM Topic Details Share Topic
m Group: Forum Members Posts: 6, Visits: 0	Hi, How can I find the AD AIPs for smaller airfields in Germany within Skydemon? Two specific examples I wasn't lucky locating anything within Skydemon for. EDTF: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/E07EEE0475A8F2239821926990434F41.html EDMK: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/A28CFE921C33A9624553BBB832069FFC.html Would be great if those could be linked directly within the airfield tabs similar to larger airfields like EDDK (showing under "Textual Information Civil AIP"). Best Markus
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Adam Erchegyi	Adam Erchegyi posted 4/27/2024 6:24:16 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 95, Visits: 2.3K	+x moefly - 4/27/2024 6:10:18 PM Hi, How can I find the AD AIPs for smaller airfields in Germany within Skydemon? Two specific examples I wasn't lucky locating anything within Skydemon for. EDTF: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/E07EEE0475A8F2239821926990434F41.html EDMK: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/A28CFE921C33A9624553BBB832069FFC.html Would be great if those could be linked directly within the airfield tabs similar to larger airfields like EDDK (showing under "Textual Information Civil AIP"). Best Markus Airfields tab -> My Flight Guides -> DFS -> Aerodomes -> search. Yes, it's a disaster.
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grahamb	grahamb posted 4/28/2024 7:43:44 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 565, Visits: 27K	+x Adam Erchegyi - 4/27/2024 6:24:16 PM Airfields tab -> My Flight Guides -> DFS -> Aerodomes -> search. Yes, it's a disaster. That only works if you've bought the DFS subscription, surely? The other way is to download the free pages from the DFS site, and import them to SD, prefixing the document title with the airfield ICAO followed by an underscore. This should then make it available in the relevant Airfield Info. It's a drag, but not too bad if you just need one or two. Edited 4/28/2024 8:25:22 AM by grahamb
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moefly	m moefly posted 4/29/2024 5:22:45 AM Post Details Share Post
m Group: Forum Members Posts: 6, Visits: 0	+x Adam Erchegyi - 4/27/2024 6:24:16 PM +x moefly - 4/27/2024 6:10:18 PM Hi, How can I find the AD AIPs for smaller airfields in Germany within Skydemon? Two specific examples I wasn't lucky locating anything within Skydemon for. EDTF: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/E07EEE0475A8F2239821926990434F41.html EDMK: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/A28CFE921C33A9624553BBB832069FFC.html Would be great if those could be linked directly within the airfield tabs similar to larger airfields like EDDK (showing under "Textual Information Civil AIP"). Best Markus Airfields tab -> My Flight Guides -> DFS -> Aerodomes -> search. Yes, it's a disaster. The problem is that some pieces of the AIP are IMHO completely missing within SkyDemon. Doing the search only gives me the Charts but is missing out on the textual information I posted :-( Thx @grahamb for the tip with the prefixed document. Not really a feasible path for me tbh given how manual the process is (and those documents changing regularly). As you said, quite doable for a airfield or two.
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Adam Erchegyi	Adam Erchegyi posted 4/29/2024 7:02:34 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 95, Visits: 2.3K	+x moefly - 4/29/2024 5:22:45 AM +x Adam Erchegyi - 4/27/2024 6:24:16 PM +x moefly - 4/27/2024 6:10:18 PM Hi, How can I find the AD AIPs for smaller airfields in Germany within Skydemon? Two specific examples I wasn't lucky locating anything within Skydemon for. EDTF: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/E07EEE0475A8F2239821926990434F41.html EDMK: https://aip.dfs.de/BasicVFR/2024APR18/pages/A28CFE921C33A9624553BBB832069FFC.html Would be great if those could be linked directly within the airfield tabs similar to larger airfields like EDDK (showing under "Textual Information Civil AIP"). Best Markus Airfields tab -> My Flight Guides -> DFS -> Aerodomes -> search. Yes, it's a disaster. The problem is that some pieces of the AIP are IMHO completely missing within SkyDemon. Doing the search only gives me the Charts but is missing out on the textual information I posted :-( Thx @grahamb for the tip with the prefixed document. Not really a feasible path for me tbh given how manual the process is (and those documents changing regularly). As you said, quite doable for a airfield or two. Again: Airfields tab -> My Flight Guides -> DFS -> Aerodomes -> search You are not searching within SkyDemon, you search in the PDF
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/29/2024 10:05:56 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	DFS does not provide the textual information for the mentioned aerodrome in its own document. Instead, it is merged with other aerodromes in one big document, so you have to open the larger document and do a text search to locate it. However, we have most of the textual information that is present in that document, in our own Approach Information and Admin Information pages inside SkyDemon. What information are you looking for, that we don't have? For my reference.
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Adam Erchegyi	Adam Erchegyi posted 4/29/2024 1:26:50 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 95, Visits: 2.3K	+x Tim Dawson - 4/29/2024 10:05:56 AM DFS does not provide the textual information for the mentioned aerodrome in its own document. Instead, it is merged with other aerodromes in one big document, so you have to open the larger document and do a text search to locate it. However, we have most of the textual information that is present in that document, in our own Approach Information and Admin Information pages inside SkyDemon. What information are you looking for, that we don't have? For my reference. I usually look for customs details. As proposed earlier in another thread: it's fine to have it in one document but would be nice to find a solution to open that pdf directly from the airport's tab and go to the first match of the ICAO code (pre-bookmark, more mature built-in pdf tool, whatever...). Something similar could also solve the French instrument plates...
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 4/29/2024 1:36:58 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	It's a good idea. We might be able to get some of the way there quite easily. I'll see what I can do.
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moefly	m moefly posted 4/30/2024 4:49:28 PM Post Details Share Post
m Group: Forum Members Posts: 6, Visits: 0	Thanks all, was finally able to locate it in the big document using the path you mentioned. @Tim: Would be great if sth like Adam mentioned would be possible to implement, thanks for looking into it. To your earlier question what specific information I'm looking for that is not available in the approach/admin details: For EDTF I specifically looked for information around the german UL class as they have some quite strange regulations around the max noise level for ULs for departure at that airfield.
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Tim Dawson	Tim Dawson posted 5/1/2024 11:46:02 AM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 8K, Visits: 8.9K	Thanks all. I've actually prototyped a new little feature where the general textual information document is linked from the airfield page, in Germany. It won't jump straight to the actual entry for the airfield (that's a potential future enhancement) but in the meantime will definitely make it easier to find the information.
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