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RainerM
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Yesterday I entered the EDDF control zone (Frankfurt/Main) from the north via November.
After passing November, the controller sent me towards 'northern holding'.
Unfortunately, the two holdings (north and south) are not shown in the arrival chart / maps on Skydemon, while the entry and exit vectors are shown.
The holdings are shown in the 'Approach Chart' and the 'Arrival Chart', but not in the 'VFR Terminal Chart'.

Also, I noticed that ATIS 118.030 is the arrival ATIS, while 118.730 is the departure ATIS.
Would it be possible to include this in the 'Briefing Pack Creation'?


Additionally when I flew over ETNT (Wittmundhafen) at the weekend, I was told by FIS that the CRT together with the TMZ is not active (HX).
Unfortunately this is not shown in the charts.
Is there any way to include the HX?

Is there probably a reporting email that everyone can send their observations to?
Tim Dawson
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We do not currently include holdings in the SkyDemon traffic guidance. I believe we have added the HX suffixes to German CTRs ready for our next chart update.

The ATIS question is an interesting one. Are they both shown in the SkyDemon details for the airfield, but without anything guiding you when to use each one?

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It would be a great advantage if the maps also included holdings, because sometimes you are sent there even if you just want to cross the CTR.

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On the breefing package, the two frequencies are actually given as ATIS without any further information.
The EDDF text states:
12. Separate ATIS Information for Arrivals and Departures
At specified times, ATIS information will be transmitted separately on the
published frequencies for arrivals (118.030 MHz) and departures (118.730
MHz).

Tim Dawson
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I can see we do actually have the qualifiers for the ATIS, they're shown in the Approach Info section for the airfield. Could you confirm exactly where you're looking in SkyDemon and not seeing them? I will make sure we get them added.
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Tim Dawson - 5/6/2022 9:56:57 AM
I can see we do actually have the qualifiers for the ATIS, they're shown in the Approach Info section for the airfield.

I can see the qualifiers for EDDF, not for pe. LSZH

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I'm using SkyDemon Plan version 3.16.2.0 with full subscription on Win10.
I had a Briefing Pack created and I only get the two ATIS frequencies displayed there, without any additions.





Tim Dawson
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Ah, do you mean in the Pilot Log? I think I see the problem, and will look to get it fixed. They're appearing in the airfield information section of the briefing pack but not the pilot log part.
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I will get LSZH looked at too.
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