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Annotating Controlled Airspace with Sector IDs


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When planning a flight which crosses a CTA, it can be useful to know which sector (eg. CTA1, CTA2 etc) as the controlling frequencies may differ according to sector and altitude.. The info can be found on the charts in the AIP, but would be much quicker if it could be shown on the detail pop-up for the sector concerned.
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Which country are we talking about?
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Tim Dawson - 9/7/2020 9:38:04 AM
Which country are we talking about?

UK specifically, but that's probably becaue other countries are a bit more joined up with their ATC!

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Do any of the NATS enroute charts show such numbers on them? As far as I'm aware although there are numbers in the AIP, those are for administration rather than operational purposes.
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Tim Dawson - 9/8/2020 8:49:02 AM
Do any of the NATS enroute charts show such numbers on them? As far as I'm aware although there are numbers in the AIP, those are for administration rather than operational purposes.

These little critters might have been born by administration, but they for sure already infected operations - at least in the UK, Austria and Switzerland you get references to them in clearances, so it would indeed help to add them.

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Tim Dawson - 9/8/2020 8:49:02 AM
Do any of the NATS enroute charts show such numbers on them? As far as I'm aware although there are numbers in the AIP, those are for administration rather than operational purposes.

In the UK it’s ENR 6.7

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I would also suggest to have the different TMA sections numbered as this would provide a better view of the airspace you cross.
For example on the route EBLG-EHBK If you click between the 2 CTR you have Liege TMA (2500ft-FL55) and Liege TMA (2000ft-2500ft).
I would prefer to see: Liege TMA 1 (2500ft-FL55) and Liege TMA 2 (2000ft-2500ft).

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Let me be clear: we do not wish to annotate these things on our charts unless a good number of controllers are referring to them in everyday radio correspondence AND they are marked up on the typically-used national paper charts. Some countries I believe match these criteria, which others do not. I don't think the UK is there, which is why I was hoping for some clarification.
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