Co-connection of iLevil and PAW devices?

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Co-connection of iLevil and PAW devices?

Co-connection of iLevil and PAW devices?

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C S	C S posted 2/22/2020 2:34:08 PM Topic Details Share Topic
Group: Forum Members Posts: 19, Visits: 47	I have an iLevil which is great for showing ADSB-in on SD moving map. Trouble is that there is apparently more low-level (<5kft) traffic in UK airspace equipped with PAW than with ADSB-out. So can i get ADSB-in and PAW traffic simultaneously on my SD moving map display? My iLevil will connect fine if i use 'GDL90' device, but can the PAW connect at the same time? If not possible now, is it/can it be, planned please? Edited 2/22/2020 3:07:44 PM by C S
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grahamb	grahamb posted 2/22/2020 3:40:51 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 507, Visits: 25K	+x C S - 2/22/2020 2:34:08 PM I have an iLevil which is great for showing ADSB-in on SD moving map. Trouble is that there is apparently more low-level (<5kft) traffic in UK airspace equipped with PAW than with ADSB-out. So can i get ADSB-in and PAW traffic simultaneously on my SD moving map display? My iLevil will connect fine if i use 'GDL90' device, but can the PAW connect at the same time? If not possible now, is it/can it be, planned please? AIUI iLevil is a wifi access point, as is PAW. You'd be asking your SD phone/tablet to connect to two access points at once, which is not something I believe is possible. Pilot Aware will also display ADSB-out traffic (as well as FLARM and Mode-S within range of an OGN-R, and bearingless Mode S and C) so why bother with the iLevil at all?
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C S	C S posted 2/23/2020 2:07:42 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 19, Visits: 47	+x grahamb - 2/22/2020 3:40:51 PM +x C S - 2/22/2020 2:34:08 PM I have an iLevil which is great for showing ADSB-in on SD moving map. Trouble is that there is apparently more low-level (<5kft) traffic in UK airspace equipped with PAW than with ADSB-out. So can i get ADSB-in and PAW traffic simultaneously on my SD moving map display? My iLevil will connect fine if i use 'GDL90' device, but can the PAW connect at the same time? If not possible now, is it/can it be, planned please? AIUI iLevil is a wifi access point, as is PAW. You'd be asking your SD phone/tablet to connect to two access points at once, which is not something I believe is possible. Pilot Aware will also display ADSB-out traffic (as well as FLARM and Mode-S within range of an OGN-R, and bearingless Mode S and C) so why bother with the iLevil at all? Thanks Graham, You make a good point. My thinking is that maybe i should retain my iLevil (as ADSB is clearly signalled by the CAA as its preferred conspicuity method for GA longer term - but also in the hope of future UAT weather broadcasts in the UK and for its existing solid GPS feed to my TRIG xPDR), but fit Rosetta as well - and use that to connect to SD via GDL90 for my traffic alerts?
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pilot-byom	p pilot-byom posted 2/23/2020 2:41:57 PM Post Details Share Post
p Group: Forum Members Posts: 323, Visits: 388	It would probably not be so tough to reconfigure the devices to get on one network, i.e. the recent Stratux forks already went that way, but so far I am a strong believer of binding the GPS position strictly to the device transmitting traffic information! We don't have RAIM for these tinkerboxes and mixing traffic and GPS from different sources? No! Daisy chaining over WiFi and having a central instance do the checks, ok, so unless available ... Edited 2/23/2020 2:43:26 PM by MarkusM
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grahamb	grahamb posted 2/23/2020 6:38:24 PM Post Details Share Post
Group: Forum Members Posts: 507, Visits: 25K	+x C S - 2/23/2020 2:07:42 PM +x grahamb - 2/22/2020 3:40:51 PM +x C S - 2/22/2020 2:34:08 PM I have an iLevil which is great for showing ADSB-in on SD moving map. Trouble is that there is apparently more low-level (<5kft) traffic in UK airspace equipped with PAW than with ADSB-out. So can i get ADSB-in and PAW traffic simultaneously on my SD moving map display? My iLevil will connect fine if i use 'GDL90' device, but can the PAW connect at the same time? If not possible now, is it/can it be, planned please? AIUI iLevil is a wifi access point, as is PAW. You'd be asking your SD phone/tablet to connect to two access points at once, which is not something I believe is possible. Pilot Aware will also display ADSB-out traffic (as well as FLARM and Mode-S within range of an OGN-R, and bearingless Mode S and C) so why bother with the iLevil at all? Thanks Graham, You make a good point. My thinking is that maybe i should retain my iLevil (as ADSB is clearly signalled by the CAA as its preferred conspicuity method for GA longer term - but also in the hope of future UAT weather broadcasts in the UK and for its existing solid GPS feed to my TRIG xPDR), but fit Rosetta as well - and use that to connect to SD via GDL90 for my traffic alerts? A Rosetta also makes a good position source for a Trig transponder.
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