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German DFS AIP VFR: EDKB textual information page 2 missing ?


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BerndHS
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There were always 2 text pages for EDKB due to enhanced noise avoidance regulations especially on holidays and weekends which have been described very detailled. There are only pages 1 (some text), 2 and 3 (App & Aerodrome charts) in the current Document Browser (PC and Android) by now. I am using version 3.6.1. I can't bevieve that theses regulations are not exisiting anymore... can someone please cross-check ?
- Thanks.

Mick Boneville
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Yes, the textual Information page is not able to load. The information window pops up says to contact "SkyDemon if the Internet-connection is ok".  THE SAME ERROR occurs trying to load the LIST OF AERODROMES using iPad.
Edited 7/10/2016 1:13:08 PM by Mick Boneville
Tim Dawson
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Bernd, I confirm that on the amendment dated 12 May 2016 we removed two pages from EDKB and replaced them with one, as per the instructions from Eisenschmidt. There is only one page of textual information in force for that airfield.

Mick, your internet connectivity issues are a different issue. There is no general problem with the SkyDemon documents system.
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Thanks Tim.

The problem was that all plates did load, only the "List of Aerodromes" and some text pages had the problem yesterday.
Today it loads OK.

Do you think it is possible to add a SEARCH feature for PDF documents? "List of Aerodromes" has 116 pages and sometimes it is useful to look at additional information which is not shown in SkyDemon ...
Tim Dawson
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Unfortunately it is not straightforward for us to do that, at the moment.
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Hi guys,
this issue was already adressed by a user in 2016 and is still not solved.

If you check the textual information (Civil AIP) for EDDC, you can find 14 pages. If you compare it to the AD2 section on the DFS portal for EDDC, it is 100% correct. For EDKB this is not the case. There you can only find 1 page, dated by 2016. Tim replied in 2016, that this was due to a restriction by Eisenschmidt. But why does EDDC contain the complete set, but EDKB does not?

So could you please check the EDKB data? Maybe it's specific for this airfield (but it would be good to understand the reason why) or it's a general issue that some data is missing. Maybe the inital data load was corrupt and because there were no further amendments, the data got never updated.

I don't want to bother you, but in the EDKB case, the missing page contains important data regarding noise abatement. To start outside the allowed operating hours could cause a lot of trouble with the German law authorities.

Thanks in advance, Milan

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I will ask Eisenschmidt if we are missing anything for EDKB. It would help if you told me precisely what you believe is missing, and (even better) showed me what is available elsewhere that isn't in SkyDemon.
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Eisenschmidt have confirmed that what we are showing is correct, so I will await any further information with interest.
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Tim Dawson - 11/18/2021 10:55:41 AM
Eisenschmidt have confirmed that what we are showing is correct, so I will await any further information with interest.

Hi Tim, you should have an e-mail. 
Best regards

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After checking with DFS and Foreflight data, no issue anymore.
The noise abatement information can be found in AD1-6 as referred to in the AIP. AD1-6 can be found in the Flight Procedures section of SD.
Thanks to Tim and Hannah for their support

Edited 11/29/2021 9:20:33 AM by mapl99
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