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Where are the GAFOR routes ?


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Tim Dawson
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Austria changed the GAFOR routes on Thursday. Unfortunately although we put plans in place for this, we still had an outage, but they're all back now. This is unlikely to happen again.
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Since at least yesterday they are not working anymore throughout the day. Right now at 0630 UTC  I can see the valid GAFOR on the Homepage of Austrocontrol but not on Skydemon anymore.

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GAFOR route forecast availability will depend on when the country in question actually publishes the forecasts. During non-summer months some countries, I suspect Austria included, do not publish an early-morning forecast so perhaps 0800 is the first one?
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flieger-claus - 3/22/2019 6:43:11 AM
Good morning!
Since a few day, I have difficulties to see the GAFOR Routes in Austria (both when planing on pc or android tab). Sometimes it pops up when I play with the starttime. Today 06:30 UTC: It did not show when I set starttime to 07:00. When switching to 08:00 it works. What is to do? Best reagrds Claus

Just an  idea without trying:
Maybe the reason is, because GAFOR (and also routes?) is not available all over the day.
I suspect they are suppressed until they reach their valid-time.
On the other hand 0700UTC is at the moment 0800LT

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Good morning!
Since a few day, I have difficulties to see the GAFOR Routes in Austria (both when planing on pc or android tab). Sometimes it pops up when I play with the starttime. Today 06:30 UTC: It did not show when I set starttime to 07:00. When switching to 08:00 it works. What is to do? Best reagrds Claus

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@Tim: You'r right: the reference altitude is the highest terrain along the route, including obstacles.

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You said the reference altitude is the lowest altitude it's safe to fly along the route. From memory that is incorrect; the reference altitude is actually the highest terrain along the route. If you flew it at that altitude, there's a good chance you'd fly into terrain.
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I can answer my own question now:
Austrocontrol issues the first GAFOR diurnal at 5AM (Zulu Time), but it's valid only as of 6AM. Basically Slovenian GAFOR is the same: issuing time 5AM, valid as of 6AM.

I planned my route at 5:15AM, what was not in range of validity of both GAFOR. Pushing the new weather slider to 6AM, the Austrian GAFOR routes popped up as well

Nevertheless strange: Same range of validity for both GAFOR reports; one shows up, the other not




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To see the route number, reference level and current route status, just press and hold your finger on the route in question to bring up the "What's Here? menu on your iOS device

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Same problem here:
In SD 3.6.0 (iOS) the GAFOR routes in Slovenia (including the "OMX" information) light up, but not in Austria and not in Swizerland. In those countries I only see the dotted grey lines. I downloaded already weather for all of the maps/countries and "show GAFOR" in the weather menue is switched on

@Tim:
"needed altitude": Every GAFOR route in Austria comes with a reference altitude, that indicates the lowest safe altitude to fly along this specific route

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