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Name of TSA's in Norway


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Lorents
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Hello,

In Norway we have a bunch of TSA's named OAK xx, BIRCH xx, TEAK xx and SPRUCE xx. These names are used in the AUP when we check which areas are active.

The Skydemon apps show a different ident for these areas. Ie OAK 2B is shown as ENTSA785. If I expand the info on ENTSA785 I will get a small window that shows me that ENTSA784 is in location OAK 2B.

The idents that are shown in the norwegian maps are useless for checking active TSA's and clicking on each TSA to get the location is not very practical. 

Would it be possible to show the locaion of TSA's on the maps in Norway instead of the idents?

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Lorents Hildrum
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Edited 9/17/2014 11:38:29 AM by Lorents
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There are other countries which use TSAs (Temporary Segregated Areas) or TRAs (Temporary Restricted Areas). Their activity status is available via so-called AUP (Airspace Usage Plans). The AUP lists -- usually 24 hours in advance -- which TSAs and TRAs are active.

In a country like, e.g., the Czech Republic, if you didn't check the AUP you'd be seriously hampered in flying anywhere.

AUPs are made public over the internet. Therefore I wonder if SD couldn't show the actual activity status of TSAs and TRAs using the corresponding AUP published by the respective authority.

Greetings, -- Chris.

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Hello Lorents, thank you, yes it's possible and we will make this change ready for the next update.

We're not aware of any AUP in any country which is actually machine-readable, so they're not really possible to fully integrate into SkyDemon. However in some countries we do provide a direct link to the AUP from the inspection window for a piece of airspace. We may be able to do this for Norway; is there a consistent link to the current AUP?

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Wow! Thank you very much, it will help a lot!

I am not sure if there are any easy ways to read the AUP. The only way I know of to get the AUP is throug IPPC.no where the AUP is listed among NOTAMS, SIGMETS, etc.

https://www.ippc.no/ippc/index.jsp

If you check out this link you can see how this briefing looks like for ENOR:

https://www.ippc.no/ippc/aerodromes.jsp?AED=&FIR=ENOR

Here is an extract that shows the format of the AUP:

NEW TODAY TIL 1409181650
AIRSPACE USE PLAN NORWAY
VALIDITY: 18 SEP 2014 06:00 - 19 SEP 2014 06:00
REMARK: NIL CDR. MILEX ALSO BLW ACTIVE TSA. REF AIP ENR 5.2-1.
ENORFIR

AMA MANAGEABLE AREAS:
NR AREA   MNM FL MAX FL WEF  TIL  RESP. UNIT REMARK
1 END414  195  500  07:30 11:10 SSA    BIRCH6A
2 END415  195  300  07:30 11:10 SSA    BIRCH6B
3 END416  195  300  07:40 11:10 SSA    TEAK1A
4 ENTSAB6C  115  500  07:30 11:10 SSA    BIRCH6C
5 ENTSAB7B  055  500  11:10 12:20 SSA    BIRCH7B
6 ENTSAB7B  055  500  13:30 16:50 MAG    BIRCH7B
7 ENTSAO2B  095  500  13:30 16:50 MAG    OAK2B
8 ENTSAO2C  095  500  13:30 16:50 MAG    OAK2C

AIRSPACE USE PLAN (AUP) IS AN OVERVIEW OF ACTIVATED MILITARY AREAS.
REF AIP NORWAY ENR 5.2 AND CHARTS ENR 6.5   : NOTAM ENEX/0657/14


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