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Good morning,

We have a lot of "Temporary prohibited areas" due to the Olympic games, Tour de France, and lastly

giant retention basins demonstrations.

When flying, or when testing SkyDemon with "Simulate", I would like to have a warning as we have when crossing airspaces.

Would it be possible to add this type of warning concerning the "Temporary prohibited areas" in the list concerning

the Airspace Warnings inside Navigation Option.

Thanks a lot,

D.B.

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Daniel Biton - 7/18/2024 12:20:47 PM
Good morning,

We have a lot of "Temporary prohibited areas" due to the Olympic games, Tour de France, and lastly

giant retention basins demonstrations.

When flying, or when testing SkyDemon with "Simulate", I would like to have a warning as we have when crossing airspaces.

Would it be possible to add this type of warning concerning the "Temporary prohibited areas" in the list concerning

the Airspace Warnings inside Navigation Option.

Thanks a lot,

D.B.

I'm seeing ZRT warnings for the TdF zones in simulation mode. There no option to toggle them on or off. but they seem to happen!

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Good evening,

concerning the Tour de France, these "Temporary prohibited area" are depicted in SupAips.

The  "Temporary prohibited area" concerning the giant retention basins are depicted in Notams.

When testing (using Simulate), the "Temporary prohibited area" concerning today Barcelonnette there is a warning

only after having entered the "Temporary prohibited area", never before.

A warning as we have when we are approaching any TMA would be great.

Between La Rochelle (LFBH), Fontenay le Comte (LFFK), Saint Jean d'Angely (LFIY) and Niort (LFBN), there in a huge 

"Temporary prohibited area"  above 2 microlight sites.  

When using Simulate for a flight between La Rochelle (LFBH) and Niort (LFBN), no warning shows up.

Would it be possible to have a better warning for "Temporary prohibited area", whatever its origin (SupAip, Notam).

Thanks a lot,

Dan.



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Daniel Biton - 7/18/2024 2:23:42 PM
When testing (using Simulate), the "Temporary prohibited area" concerning today Barcelonnette there is a warning
only after having entered the "Temporary prohibited area", never before.
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Between La Rochelle (LFBH), Fontenay le Comte (LFFK), Saint Jean d'Angely (LFIY) and Niort (LFBN), there in a huge 
"Temporary prohibited area"  above 2 microlight sites.  
When using Simulate for a flight between La Rochelle (LFBH) and Niort (LFBN), no warning shows up.
Would it be possible to have a better warning for "Temporary prohibited area", whatever its origin (SupAip, Notam).

For your first point, see the image below. I can generate a warning before entry of the TdF ZRT.

For your other points, you are asking for a warning for any NOTAM'd area?

(BTW I'm not a member of the SD team, just another user).


Edited 7/18/2024 4:02:39 PM by grahamb
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Good evening,

I cannot have the warning you show us.  Therefore, I think I have a problem

Where should I find a missing tick to turn on this feature?

Concerning Notams, only those with "Temporary prohibited area" should trigger such warnings.

Maybe, if we can fix the warning display for your example this could also be helpful for the tests I am conducting

around Niort.

Dan.

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Good evening,

Now it works!

In fact I had to validate a choice in Navigation Options.

Thanks for your help grahamb,

Dan.

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Good morning,

Everything is now Ok with both Pc & tablet,

escept for 

Temporary prohibited area (ZIT) over 'mauze-sur-le-mignon' - 
RDL245/14.6NM LFBN ARP :
-Position : 461251N 0004232W
-Lateral limits :
460750N 0003241W
461355N 0003214W
461546N 0004241W
461612N 0005226W
461123N 0005144W
460750N 0003241W

For that one, no warning, is given both on Pc or Android tablet.  Is there anything I can fix by a missing tick to set?

Thanks,

Dan.

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It's a good point. Most countries use a different coding for NOTAMs that establish restrictions. However this is clearly an instance where it would be useful if we displayed a warning, so we will add a warning for this kind of NOTAM ready for our next version.
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Good evening,

Thank you Tim for your answer.  These proves that most countries do not follow the same rules.

But it also shows that Skydemon is way ahead its competitors.

Thanks again for your soft and please thanks your team.

Dan.

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Good evening,

You have sent a new French chart and now we have :

when running on a Pc, Skydemon Plan have the expected behaviour concerning the Temporary prohibited area (ZIT) over 'mauze-sur-le-mignon' and displays onthe screen the red bar with
Mauzé-Sur-Le-Mignon Prohibited Aera in ..... nm.

When running on an Android tablet, it is different : enterring the area opens a small window confirming we entered a prohibited area, and when exiting the area, we have a new window confirming we did exit the prohibited area.

This is much better, since at Usseau (LF1751) we are grounded, and the area has 300 gendarms, 4 helicopters + day and night police patrols.

Therefore, we are learning to use tractors and farm machineries to keep the grass short, and we are painting the club house until next tuesday.

Thanks for the update,

Dan.


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