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Flightplan route waypoints


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Hello!

When filing a flightplan the route is filled by waypoints represented as coordinates. Would it be possible to change this, so that the names of the waypoints are shown like in the PLOG?

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Bernhard.
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@lhe: That maybe correct, but there are different rules in different countries. I am sure, you do not know the NOATA remark outside Austria for example, but that is is a common remark to disable search and rescue (just as an example).

@Tim: Thanks for the reply. I agree that Skydemon is an international tool and therefore, there should be an option for countries which like it "the other way". As a software developer myself I am sure that this would not be that big task, especially for a great team like yours. At least the reporting points should be definitively possible in long names, because Austria's ATC system rewrites those names to special short names (KLOSTERNEUBURG to KB for example), so that it is compatible with our ATC flightstrip system.

Maybe you can reevaluate that topic again and make it an option - that would be a big benefit for quick flightplan filing. And I am sure, every pilot will be aware enough on what to file. At the moment some of us also rewrite the coordinates to long names, so to check the option should be possible by pilots minds.

Thanks a lot,
Bernhard.
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ICAO, in fact, requests the NAME of a significant point if there is one. Only if there isn't you are supposed to give coordinates or distance/bearing from another point. The names accepted are those publised in the corresponding AIP. Therefore airport IDs are perfectly fine, and you'd draw some snide remark from ATC if you gave an arcane Lat/Lon position for an airport in your route.

Nobody I know specifies routes with Lat/Lon on a VFR flight (or even IFR flight) if there exists a friendly name for the point.

-- Chris.
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Therefore airport IDs are perfectly fine, and you'd draw some snide remark from ATC if you gave an arcane Lat/Lon position for an airport in your route.
No, airport IDs are not accepted in the route part according to ICAO rules. Possibly some country can have their own rules regarding VFR flight plans, but if you try to submit an IFR flight plan in Europe with an airport location indicator in the route part, it will be rejected by the IFPS. (I just tried!)


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