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Everything transferred via internet does have an unknown time component. There is no quality of service, neither for data even being transported, nor when it may be delivered. We often no longer notice because we got used to go brut force with so much bandwidth that latency does not matter. But things are different in the air. The mobile net is not meant for aircraft, still not, and I remember times when the provider cut your connection when they found out you were using internet in flight - as the tower could not handle the quick handover . and you had to call them and apologize later.

No, do not use a source with unknown age of information in flight.

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And there is no time lag at all. SafeSky uses the GDL90 protocol to connect and the data is realtime. As long as you have a proper connection of course.

I'm sure there is no delay in getting the data to SkyDemon but it is the delay in getting the data to the aircraft that will be the problem. It's all very well seeing it demonstrated on, for instance, a sales stand with good Internet connection but quite something else (as you pointed out) when in the air and the connection may not be quite so reliable. Also, what information has been published about the latency of the data being obtained and re-broadcast? Is it really just a fancy FR24 that is being beamed into the cockpit via 4G?

The likes of Pilot Aware went into great detail to ensure their data suffers almost no latency and has the advantage of being broadcast and received over the radio waves and not relying on airborne data.

My opinion is that 4G etc may work well for receiving weather data etc (that's not going to change in seconds) but traffic data just has too many holes lining up for it to be considered reliable enough. I would much rather have no data than something that is out of date before it appears on my iPad.

Good gadget though and who doesn't love shiny things Smile

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BJS - 9/30/2021 8:19:07 AM
I guess it was discussed already here and abandoned by good reason. SafeSky does not help for collision avoidance, due to the time lag it is a tool for traffic surveillance, thus controller not pilots.

Even though I am not a product specialist, I did see the full integration of SafeSky into Skydemon at work. And there is no time lag at all. SafeSky uses the GDL90 protocol to connect and the data is realtime. As long as you have a proper connection of course. I saw it working during a Safety Day for ULMs in Belgium on an iPadPro and integration is very smooth.

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I guess it was discussed already here and abandoned by good reason. SafeSky does not help for collision avoidance, due to the time lag it is a tool for traffic surveillance, thus controller not pilots.
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Have you consider an integration with SafeSky running on the same iPad that is open on Sydemon or from a smart phone via bluethoot ? 
Since SafeSky receive all traffic, would be possible to see these traffics on the SD map similar to other system (Flarm, GDL90....) 
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Gianni

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