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Can you make an option to upload georeferenced charts into SD just like in ForeFlight?
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Tim Dawson
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We have no plans to introduce custom georeferenced charts in SkyDemon. It isn't an often-requested feature, and we judge the complexity it would add to the product to be not worth it.
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+xWe have no plans to introduce custom georeferenced charts in SkyDemon. It isn't an often-requested feature, and we judge the complexity it would add to the product to be not worth it. I am sorry to hear that! It may not have been mentioned often, but it would solve some shortcomings.
If the custom data airfields simply would get a Plate ID to its ICAO code in the Plates index.xml and the possibility to add a PDF with your simple ReferencePoint mechanics it would be all needed - it would be 'just another airfield as any other'. GeoRef'ing in Skydemon does not look particularly complicated on the PC in the end, see the quick GoogleEarth overlay shot below:
(For the PC tinkerer: pull C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Divelements Limited\SkyDemon Plan\Plates\index.xml, look for the PlateID of the airfield, understand the georeferencing by the readable definition of the box on the pdf and some reference points, change the <PlateID>.pdf to whatever you want, save. Yes, I know there are some functions to do as well to add custom data this way, but why not add a country = customlands ?)
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+xWe have no plans to introduce custom georeferenced charts in SkyDemon. It isn't an often-requested feature, and we judge the complexity it would add to the product to be not worth it. Tim, I can't speak for how many users would require it, but I know a few in my network at least. Besides, other apps are already providing the feature which might be an indication of value to the users.
A first version limited to PDF documents only might help probe the user interest for the feature. In my mind, it would require the following: 1. SD to make public what file and data format is to be used for geo-referencing PDF documents (must already exist in SD)
2. SD to extend the current geo-rendering to user PDF documents (hopefully minimal dev effort as the feature already exists for AIP and commercial plates like Pooley's or AFE)
3. A tool to be made available for users to geo-reference their documents (happy to provide such a tool if needed)
The geo-reference info could be described in XML (same as the existing format) in a separate file to be uploaded to the app with the same name as that of the document but with a different extension. Alternatively (but more complex), it could be zipped with the PDF file or written in a user field of the PDF document.
I believe it would unlock a lot of possibilities for more savvy SD users, especially for IFR flights.
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+x+xWe have no plans to introduce custom georeferenced charts in SkyDemon. It isn't an often-requested feature, and we judge the complexity it would add to the product to be not worth it. Tim, I can't speak for how many users would require it, but I know a few in my network at least. Besides, other apps are already providing the feature which might be an indication of value to the users.
A first version limited to PDF documents only might help probe the user interest for the feature. In my mind, it would require the following: 1. SD to make public what file and data format is to be used for geo-referencing PDF documents (must already exist in SD)
2. SD to extend the current geo-rendering to user PDF documents (hopefully minimal dev effort as the feature already exists for AIP and commercial plates like Pooley's or AFE)
3. A tool to be made available for users to geo-reference their documents (happy to provide such a tool if needed)
The geo-reference info could be described in XML (same as the existing format) in a separate file to be uploaded to the app with the same name as that of the document but with a different extension. Alternatively (but more complex), it could be zipped with the PDF file or written in a user field of the PDF document.
I believe it would unlock a lot of possibilities for more savvy SD users, especially for IFR flights.
I couldn't agree more! 👍
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+xI can't speak for how many users would require it, but I know a few in my network at least. Besides, other apps are already providing the feature which might be an indication of value to the users.
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I believe it would unlock a lot of possibilities for more savvy SD users, especially for IFR flights.
I second that!
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+x+xWe have no plans to introduce custom georeferenced charts in SkyDemon. It isn't an often-requested feature, and we judge the complexity it would add to the product to be not worth it. Tim, I can't speak for how many users would require it, but I know a few in my network at least. Besides, other apps are already providing the feature which might be an indication of value to the users.
A first version limited to PDF documents only might help probe the user interest for the feature. In my mind, it would require the following: 1. SD to make public what file and data format is to be used for geo-referencing PDF documents (must already exist in SD)
2. SD to extend the current geo-rendering to user PDF documents (hopefully minimal dev effort as the feature already exists for AIP and commercial plates like Pooley's or AFE)
3. A tool to be made available for users to geo-reference their documents (happy to provide such a tool if needed)
The geo-reference info could be described in XML (same as the existing format) in a separate file to be uploaded to the app with the same name as that of the document but with a different extension. Alternatively (but more complex), it could be zipped with the PDF file or written in a user field of the PDF document.
I believe it would unlock a lot of possibilities for more savvy SD users, especially for IFR flights.
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I have tried this before, the only thing is that it resets the index file each time you open SKD so you must enter the codes again and again, also it is a bit little tricky to make the x,y values right for your custom plate.
I agree, a custom feature to add the plates would definitely make life easier 
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Tim Dawson
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There's no supported way of achieving this in SkyDemon. Tinkering with undocumented bits of our functionality isn't sustainable.
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Yes, please +1.
At our club, we are given the PDF version of the VFR charts in our country, but not being able to import them to SkyDemon is a big inconvenience. There's the possibility to buy them in SkyDemon, but I don't really want to buy something that I already have... so I end up just opening up the PDF with the tablet and using it as I would a paper chart... not so nice! Would be great to be able to import it somehow!
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Alright people, if we can push this thread to at least 3 or 4 pages, hopefully our request will be heard 🙂
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+xAlright people, if we can push this thread to at least 3 or 4 pages, hopefully our request will be heard 🙂 Sadly, it seems hard to blow this up to 3/4 pages  It would be great to be able to overlay the PDF charts I get from the club, but honestly, my spatial awareness is good enough that I can switch to the PDF with the tablet in flight and navigate just fine. On the other hand, pretty sure the developer would be able to do this with ease, so not sure why this is not considered...
Oh well!
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Maybe it helps to mention that even the StratuxEU OpenSource solution got .mbtiles capability to overlay any custom charts with v25?
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I have seen this request made multiple times already, and each time the response is "this is not an often requested feature", so I am not sure what you consider "often requested". Especially considering the responses here I would say there is definitely an interest.
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+xI have seen this request made multiple times already, and each time the response is "this is not an often requested feature", so I am not sure what you consider "often requested". Especially considering the responses here I would say there is definitely an interest. Right. Could there be a conflict of interest since the alternative would be to buy the charts via SD? Maybe SD wants to push sales of the charts... but I'm not going to pay again for charts when I am entitled to them via my flying club, just to have them overlaid... what a pity.
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+x+xI have seen this request made multiple times already, and each time the response is "this is not an often requested feature", so I am not sure what you consider "often requested". Especially considering the responses here I would say there is definitely an interest. Right. Could there be a conflict of interest since the alternative would be to buy the charts via SD? Maybe SD wants to push sales of the charts... but I'm not going to pay again for charts when I am entitled to them via my flying club, just to have them overlaid... what a pity.
This feature would be so important here in Germany, where there is no free AIP VFR. I find it absolutely unfortunate that I pay for the AIP and then I should pay for the charts in Skydemon again. It would be very helpful to include a georeferenced map yourself via the XML file (or another feature).
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This feature would be so important here in Germany, where there is no free AIP VFR. I find it absolutely unfortunate that I pay for the AIP and then I should pay for the charts in Skydemon again. well, you could have it in SkyDemon only
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This feature would be so important here in Germany, where there is no free AIP VFR. I find it absolutely unfortunate that I pay for the AIP and then I should pay for the charts in Skydemon again. well, you could have it in SkyDemon only There's a lot more to the VFR AIP than charts only (but then again, I'm not sure if your reply was serious was just sarcastic... it was probably sarcastic as it makes no sense). Unless if by getting the VFR AIP in SkyDemon we also have access to all the other parts of an AIP (GEN, ENR, AIC and SUP).
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+xThere's a lot more to the VFR AIP than charts only (but then again, I'm not sure if your reply was serious was just sarcastic... it was probably sarcastic as it makes no sense). Unless if by getting the VFR AIP in SkyDemon we also have access to all the other parts of an AIP (GEN, ENR, AIC and SUP). The case of German VFR AIP not being free available is an epic one. Can it even be a valid AIP according to international rules and laws not being accessible for everybody?
For the custom charts I understand the software mechanics is already in place, Skydemon would only have to assign a custom PlateID range, which they so far refuse to do - correct?
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+x+xThere's a lot more to the VFR AIP than charts only (but then again, I'm not sure if your reply was serious was just sarcastic... it was probably sarcastic as it makes no sense). Unless if by getting the VFR AIP in SkyDemon we also have access to all the other parts of an AIP (GEN, ENR, AIC and SUP). The case of German VFR AIP not being free available is an epic one. Can it even be a valid AIP according to international rules and laws not being accessible for everybody?
For the custom charts I understand the software mechanics is already in place, Skydemon would only have to assign a custom PlateID range, which they so far refuse to do - correct? Seems that way, sadly.
It's not only the German VFR AIP which not available for free, but here I have no idea about the legality of it. I know I have access to it via my club membership and that's good enough for me.
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This feature would be so important here in Germany, where there is no free AIP VFR. I find it absolutely unfortunate that I pay for the AIP and then I should pay for the charts in Skydemon again. well, you could have it in SkyDemon only There's a lot more to the VFR AIP than charts only (but then again, I'm not sure if your reply was serious was just sarcastic... it was probably sarcastic as it makes no sense). Unless if by getting the VFR AIP in SkyDemon we also have access to all the other parts of an AIP (GEN, ENR, AIC and SUP). It was not sarcastic at all. I have no experience with the German setup though, but for Switzerland the AIP is available in SkyDemon for free and the (whole, not only airport plates!) SkyGuide VFR manual as an additional subscription. I guess that's the case for Germany as well: AIP for free, DFS charts for a fee. Isn't that how it works?
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+xI have seen this request made multiple times already, and each time the response is "this is not an often requested feature", so I am not sure what you consider "often requested". Especially considering the responses here I would say there is definitely an interest. I'd say there is a real interest and a NEED in that request . Please, Tim, don't let us down .
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It will also be a great idea to add custom comments section for existing objects on a map. For example, to define what frequency is in use at an aerodrome at a particular time or direction of flight (because in SD there are duplicate frequencies like RADAR 1, RADAR 2, without further explanations compared to AIP, like you should contact at least 20NM out), describing a navaid functionality (min/max working altitude) or just whatever you deem appropriate to include.
I think it's not overly complicated to implement this, but it adds a lot of flexibility to have your own notes without creating additional objects on a map and make it more messy.
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+xIt will also be a great idea to add custom comments section for existing objects on a map. For example, to define what frequency is in use at an aerodrome at a particular time or direction of flight (because in SD there are duplicate frequencies like RADAR 1, RADAR 2, without further explanations compared to AIP, like you should contact at least 20NM out), describing a navaid functionality (min/max working altitude) or just whatever you deem appropriate to include. I think it's not overly complicated to implement this, but it adds a lot of flexibility to have your own notes without creating additional objects on a map and make it more messy. Another good thing in addition to that would be a gps-location based reminder (w/ altitude). Just like the current airspace warnings, but it would show your message instead.
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"this is not an often requested feature" This is false.
I have colleagues that have request as I.
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bumping the thread! This feature is very much needed for everyone
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I would also love this feature! It is indeed needed and very useful
I was searching for it and just saw this thread that got bumped yesterday
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Bring the MBTiles file support, pleeease!
I just don't understand why it's a such a big deal... Just leave it to people and let them decide whever they want to import their data or not. Even Foreflight inside the walled Apple's garden support this (when they usually like to act like dictators and command to an end-user what's the best way of using iOS software):
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+xBring the MBTiles file support, pleeease!
I just don't understand why it's a such a big deal... Just leave it to people and let them decide whever they want to import their data or not. Even Foreflight inside the walled Apple's garden support this (when they usually like to act like dictators and command to an end-user what's the best way of using iOS software):
MBTiles would be perfect and yes I do use that on other solutions, but for me it would be also ok to use the current georef method with simple PDF.
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a lot of people need this feature.
don't ignore us, please!
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There are none so deaf as those who will not listen !!!!!!!!
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I'm still not losing hope that it will happen some day 🙂
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I support the request for an import of custom user charts. For my use case, it should be possible to assign them to an airfield and to access them via the context menu of the airfield, just like the built-in/purchased approach charts.
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It is that time of the year when I think we should gauge again the appetite for the import of geo-referenced custom charts.
This is the one single feature a lot of us are still missing and would find extremely valuable. ForeFlight now has it for multiple years and people over there are using it a lot. @Tim: you may find that not only a significant part of your current users are interested into this but also that many users of other apps may be inclined to switch to SD when this becomes available.
Let’s push this to the top of the stack!
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Could anyone setup an example of how it could look like in SkyDemon? I personally have entered pdf documents for some ICAO airport with information for the specific airport. So when planning a flight involving the airport I check this information. In flight I can access this information before approaching the airport. Problem is that this information can get outdated.
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I would love this feature too! There are simply so many places that are not on (official) maps. I understand that incorrect projections, defects in the map and deviations in the enterered coordinates will have the effect that the indicated position on the map will be off. But I think it's always better than a printed map!
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