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FIR Boundaries Germany

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By TouchTheSky - 8/12/2019 1:00:29 PM

 
onkelmuetze - 8/7/2019 9:58:49 AM
The FIR-boundaries for Germany seem to be incorrect around EDDG. There might be other ares that have been subject to change.


The highlighted boundary does not exist anymore, everything north of it now is LANGEN INFORMATION 129.875, as it was south of the boundary. The eastern boundary of this area was extended north up to the next FIR: LANGEN INFORMATION 125.100.

Effect: If I plan a route from north of the old boundary, SD will give me the wrong initial FIR Frequency.


I agree, the FIS boundaries need to be changed in SkyDemon according to:
By onkelmuetze - 8/12/2019 1:55:13 PM

 
TouchTheSky - 8/12/2019 1:00:29 PM
 
onkelmuetze - 8/7/2019 9:58:49 AM
The FIR-boundaries for Germany seem to be incorrect around EDDG. There might be other ares that have been subject to change.


The highlighted boundary does not exist anymore, everything north of it now is LANGEN INFORMATION 129.875, as it was south of the boundary. The eastern boundary of this area was extended north up to the next FIR: LANGEN INFORMATION 125.100.

Effect: If I plan a route from north of the old boundary, SD will give me the wrong initial FIR Frequency.


I agree, the FIS boundaries need to be changed in SkyDemon according to:



That's not correct, there must have been another change before the publishement of the ICAO chart 2019. The chart you postet shows exactly the boundarys that you see in SD.
By TouchTheSky - 8/12/2019 4:43:38 PM

 
onkelmuetze - 8/12/2019 1:55:13 PM
 
TouchTheSky - 8/12/2019 1:00:29 PM
 
onkelmuetze - 8/7/2019 9:58:49 AM
The FIR-boundaries for Germany seem to be incorrect around EDDG. There might be other ares that have been subject to change.


The highlighted boundary does not exist anymore, everything north of it now is LANGEN INFORMATION 129.875, as it was south of the boundary. The eastern boundary of this area was extended north up to the next FIR: LANGEN INFORMATION 125.100.

Effect: If I plan a route from north of the old boundary, SD will give me the wrong initial FIR Frequency.


I agree, the FIS boundaries need to be changed in SkyDemon according to:



That's not correct, there must have been another change before the publishement of the ICAO chart 2019. The chart you postet shows exactly the boundarys that you see in SD.

I see, but now I am completely confused. Please let me know if you know the solution.
By efrenken - 8/12/2019 9:43:54 PM

I believe you started mistaking FIR boundaries for FIS (radio) boundaries.

Eric
By onkelmuetze - 8/7/2019 9:58:49 AM

The FIR-boundaries for Germany seem to be incorrect around EDDG. There might be other ares that have been subject to change.


The highlighted boundary does not exist anymore, everything north of it now is LANGEN INFORMATION 129.875, as it was south of the boundary. The eastern boundary of this area was extended north up to the next FIR: LANGEN INFORMATION 125.100.

Effect: If I plan a route from north of the old boundary, SD will give me the wrong initial FIR Frequency.
By Tim Dawson - 8/28/2019 10:21:18 AM

FIR boundaries have not changed in Germany for a long time. FIS boundaries do change, and last changed in March 2019. SkyDemon has incorporated the changes of course.